Barloworld's Moises Nevado tests positive for EPO

MarkMcp
MarkMcp Posts: 426
edited July 2008 in Pro race
They've got another one
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Do they ever learn? :roll:

    He's a mate of Roberto Heras, lives in the same town apparently.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    OMG.

    I can't believe it. Why why why. Nooo. They're ruining our sport. The stupid fool.

    Have I said them all? :P
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    L'Equipe are confirming the story, so, as yet, it remains a rumour. :roll:

    Bang goes Barloworld's wildcard for 2009.......

    ............starting to look like a re-run of 2007 and we haven't yet reached the Alps. :(
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    He tested + on stage 4. Sooooo, give it a few more days for more excitement I guess
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    lol what a n00b - I still think its cool that they have not booted any teams yet.. Imagine how boring it would be if there were only a few teams left by the end.
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  • Moomaloid
    Moomaloid Posts: 2,040
    I do feel sad but at the same time i always feel good too when they catch someone...
  • guv001
    guv001 Posts: 688
    I think we should feel relieved that they are catching people at it. Its damned if we do damned if we don't with cycling, if no positives happen people just cry that the testing isn't working and when we do catch sonmeone the same peiople just say the sport is rotten.
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    seems to suggest the target testing is working, 2 down 8 to go ?
  • bipedal
    bipedal Posts: 466
    very bad news for Barloworld's relationship with ASO
  • campagsarge
    campagsarge Posts: 434
    Idiot. No doubt there will be more before Le Tour hits the Champs Elysees.

    Is there now a test for rEPO instead of just having high levels of HCT?

    Cycling Weekly reckoned there is a new version of rEPO that is undetectable.
  • bipedal
    bipedal Posts: 466
    Good but old... CFA article on Barloworld and DS Conti:

    http://cyclingfansanonymous.blogspot.co ... ehind.html
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Idiot. No doubt there will be more before Le Tour hits the Champs Elysees.

    Is there now a test for rEPO instead of just having high levels of HCT?

    Cycling Weekly reckoned there is a new version of rEPO that is undetectable.

    There has been a urine test for rEPO for quite a long time now. What the AFLD have done is perform blood tests and have a look at the results for wierdness (not HCT, but a bigger picture) and then targetted those with oddball results.

    There is no sanctioned test for DynEPO at the moment. LNDD detected it in the Chickens urine last year with an experimental test.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    There's been a test for r-epo for years! Would like to see a link to the Cycling Weekly story.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Ouch

    Chris Fisher, head of corporate marketing at Barloworld commented: “We are disappointed and concerned about one of our cyclists testing positive. Team Barloworld has a zero tolerance policy towards doping and, as such, Duenas has been suspended from all team activities with immediate effect.”

    The next step is for Duenas’s B sample to be tested by an independent doctor. These results will then be submitted and ratified, a process which could take up to 5 days before a final, conclusive result will be known.

    The way forward for both Duenas and the team will only be determined upon receiving these results
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • campagsarge
    campagsarge Posts: 434
    Cannot find the link on their website but the story is on page 7 of 10/7/08 edition. The last paragraph is: "...neither the UCi nor the French has a specific test for the new kind of EPO called Mircera that several sources have suggested is being used in the peloton."

    Not very promising if true.
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mircera

    from what a read its a new long lasting form of epo

    lots of information here -

    http://www.electrifiedcigars.com/cgi-bi ... &blog_id=1
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Further details emerge about Moisés Dueñas. Team Barloworld manager Claudio Corti and team doctor Massimiliano Mantovani accompanied the rider to the police station.

    As a consequence, the Team Barloworld management has discovered the results of the search carried out in the rider's room and it has emerged that some banned medicines that were absolutely not supplied or prescribed by the team doctor were found in Dueñas' room.

    "I've asked the French police to fully investigate the case so that we can fully understand the seriousness of what Moises Dueñas has done," Corti said.

    "We're absolutely stunned by what is happening and by the behaviour of one of our riders. He seems to have secretly used banned substances, hiding everything from everybody else in the team."

    "It's terribly disheartening but because the team is not involved in what has happened, we hope that the whole truth can rapidly emerge so that we can take the necessary action and that Dueñas can fully accept responsibility for what he has done."

    Team Barloworld suspended Dueñas immediately after being informed of his positive test and he did not start the 11th stage of the Tour de France
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    deal wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mircera

    from what a read its a new long lasting form of epo

    lots of information here -

    http://www.electrifiedcigars.com/cgi-bi ... &blog_id=1

    Should be quite easy to test for that, just a case of them slapping it on the banned list and validating the test. The PEG grafted on to the epo should be pretty easy to detect - one doesn't normally have poly(ethylene glycol) chains floating around in one's system. It might get complicated though if the PEG is cleaved from the epo quite quickly and cleared from the body, just leaving the epo behind. Would need to know some data on the drug's absorption and excretion rates, which should be available somewhere!
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • robmanic1
    robmanic1 Posts: 2,150
    Who was he rooming with???
    Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/34335188@N07/3336802663/
  • campagsarge
    campagsarge Posts: 434
    ...just caught the ITV feed saying that two other Barloworld riders have had to abandon today; one for injuries sustained in a crash earlier in today's stage and the other for a tendon injury.

    I bet young Geraint Thomas is very happy he stayed in Manchester for Olympic boot camp now.
  • bipedal
    bipedal Posts: 466
    he had a roomful of the naughty stuff apparently:

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/Due ... 63619.html
  • campagsarge
    campagsarge Posts: 434
    Sounds as though he was not shy.
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    i wonder why they only searched his room and not the room of every rider? im pretty sure they searched the room of all the cofidis riders last year, they even had hotel staff collecting rubbish from all the bins around the hotel grounds
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    McQuaid said something sensible today, describing the Spanish cycling authorities as slow to tackle doping. That's putting it mildly, the Iberian peninsula is getting gangrene from the rot, you can smell the stench a mile away. From Saunier Duval to Valv. Piti, to Duenas to Beltran, so far things look very suspicious.
  • z000m
    z000m Posts: 544
    if its a new type of epo not on the banned list, it will be interesting to see were the law stands.
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    I'd imagine it's the good old-fashioned recombinant stuff he's tested positive for.
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    DaveyL wrote:
    There's been a test for r-epo for years! Would like to see a link to the Cycling Weekly story.

    Will you be hoping he does a Sinkewtiz to get out of jail and tarnish anyone and everyone without proof?
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    I'm hoping he makes a full confession and names those who helped him dope, if there were any. What are you hoping for?
    Le Blaireau (1)
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    DaveyL wrote:
    I'm hoping he makes a full confession and names those who helped him dope, if there were any. What are you hoping for?

    im hoping he says he got them from saunier duval :lol: