Ricco and targetted testing

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  • z000m
    z000m Posts: 544
    if several riders had haematocrit counts right up to the 50% limit, it would be worth paying more attention to them as it wouldnt take much to break the limit on any particular day.
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  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    z000m wrote:
    if several riders had haematocrit counts right up to the 50% limit, it would be worth paying more attention to them as it wouldnt take much to break the limit on any particular day.

    ...and if they realised this was the case and so decided to play it safe and drop down to 45% then this may be flagged up as suspicious too... Having said that i think some people are probably quite experienced at keeping their percentage just under 50%
  • Anna Robic
    Anna Robic Posts: 22
    iainf72 wrote:
    Then perhaps his alledged child like hormones from the Giro last year.

    That was Di Luca not Ricco.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Anna Robic wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Then perhaps his alledged child like hormones from the Giro last year.

    That was Di Luca not Ricco.

    No, that was Di Luca, and Ricco, Piepoli and Mazzoleni. Di Luca was cleared, the other three were just kinda forgotten about.
  • andyrr
    andyrr Posts: 1,823
    fast as fupp wrote:
    id like to think that riccos being picked on coz hes a bit ginger
    Huh ?
    Something wrong with that ?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    According to the ITV podcast, Ricco has a haematocrit of 51% and a UCI certificate to say it's natural - make of that what you will.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    RichN95 wrote:
    According to the ITV podcast, Ricco has a haematocrit of 51% and a UCI certificate to say it's natural - make of that what you will.

    He used to get suspended all the time in his yoof for his HCT.

    But all things being equal, shouldn't a skinny guy who a haematocrit of 51% rip everyone legs off in the mountains?
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    iainf72 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    According to the ITV podcast, Ricco has a haematocrit of 51% and a UCI certificate to say it's natural - make of that what you will.

    He used to get suspended all the time in his yoof for his HCT.

    But all things being equal, shouldn't a skinny guy who a haematocrit of 51% rip everyone legs off in the mountains?

    Exactly. If he didn't the finger of suspicion would once again point (correctly IMO) at the beefy trialists who haven't got a TUE.

    Maybe that targetting of FC explains why he was beaten by SS and KK in the ITT? :roll:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    Perhaps his Dad is behind all the picking on Ricco.

    I read today that Ricco’s father is reputed to have said, he’s “never ever met anyone else with such a repulsive character”.
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    Could you please send the reference so i can disseminate it? :D:D:D
    Dan
  • knedlicky
    knedlicky Posts: 3,097
    flattythehurdler wrote:
    Could you please send the reference so i can disseminate it? :D:D:D
    I can't really give a proper weblink because this interesting piece of info was just text on the ARD tour live-ticker in the early stages of today's stage, before anything got going and the ticker provides 'supplementary filler info'.
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    Never mind. great turn of phrase though. He's probably not met cadel.
    Dan
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    flattythehurdler wrote:
    Never mind. great turn of phrase though. He's probably not met cadel.

    It was in ProCycling magazine last month I think
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • flattythehurdler
    flattythehurdler Posts: 2,314
    Thanks Ian, I actually read that mag but must have missed it.
    Dan
  • DanielFriebe
    DanielFriebe Posts: 102
    Easy on the artistic licence chaps. His dad claims he once told Ricco' "I've never met anyone with such an ugly personality...."
  • DaveyL
    DaveyL Posts: 5,167
    Ned Boulting reported that one of the riders "randomly" tested after today's stage was Stefan Schumacher.
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  • Cumulonimbus
    Cumulonimbus Posts: 1,730
    Damsgaard, the man who looks after CSC's testing isnt happy with the tour so far. He thinks that if the testing was done properly then 10, 20 or maybe 30% of the riders would test positive

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... jul17news2
  • iainf72
    iainf72 Posts: 15,784
    Cumulonimbus wrote:
    Damsgaard, the man who looks after CSC's testing isnt happy with the tour so far. He thinks that if the testing was done properly then 10, 20 or maybe 30% of the riders would test positive

    Interesting. I don't think all is as it seems because if you work out the average speed for the race this year so far and look at the route it's a bit eyebrow raising. But lets see what happens in the Alps.
    Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    Kléber wrote:
    deal wrote:
    if you are boosting your heamocrit consistantly from the time you were a junior its pretty easy to show a history of high haemocrit in order to get the exemption
    That means spending half your life on EPO just to keep the count high. With EPO tests out of competition from time to time, this should be impossible. Or at least exhorbitantly expensive.

    aparently not as impossible as you beleived......

    according to Jerome Pineau blog, Ricco has been doping from 15 onwards
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Yeeeears back I read something about the blood level count of Italian juniors.

    Before EPO was around the figure was X%.

    After EPO was around - the figures had magically jumped.

    Where do they get the money to do this kind of thing ? Is it grass roots maybe ? Ex pros preparing the juniors for their races ?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    Yes, it is interesting. Especially as French riders seem to have been largely ignored.
    Maybe the ASO fear that mass testing might open up a can of worms, that might prove a bit rich for French digestive systems?
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • mandie
    mandie Posts: 218
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Yes, it is interesting. Especially as French riders seem to have been largely ignored.
    Maybe the ASO fear that mass testing might open up a can of worms, that might prove a bit rich for French digestive systems?
    Or possibly that becuse of the FFC's testing regiem there is a fairly high degree of confidence that vast majority if not all French riders are in fact doing it on Evian water.

    It also appears that ASO/FFC/WADA have a fair idea of who is doping and that the targeted testing is beginning to hit the targets.
    We\'ll kick against the darkness \'till it bleeds daylight
  • dave_1
    dave_1 Posts: 9,512
    well. ricco has now been charged and for using a poisounous substance...my hunch is they will throw the book at him? I hope so. Gianetti and Piepoli should be in the cells just now...they are liars. Gianetti, Bruyneel, Yates... not one of them should really be in charge of a team if we are honest
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2V ... ata_player
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725
    ricco.jpg

    Anybody have a nice caption to go with this? :shock:
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Dave_1 wrote:
    well. ricco has now been charged and for using a poisounous substance...
    The Cobra found in possession of a poisonous substance? :lol:
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    ricco.jpg

    Anybody have a nice caption to go with this? :shock:

    You might have you hands up you little tw*t, but we're still going to fire !
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    Dave_1 wrote:
    Yates

    Oooh you'll upset people saying that !

    Dontcha know it's only those dodgy foreigners who dope ?
  • deal
    deal Posts: 857
    Anyone feel a tiny bit of sympathy for him ? apparently he started doping at 15, maybe even younger, makes you wonder who supplied and financed the doping products. If he grew up surrounded by these kind of people is it any wonder he ended up in this situation. Really hope someone else other than the cyclists gets implicated in this. What kind of people supply 15 years olds with doping products ?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    andy_wrx wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    ricco.jpg

    Anybody have a nice caption to go with this? :shock:

    BY THE POWER OF GRRRRAAAAAYYYYYYSSSSKKKKKUUUUUULLLLLL! errr, I mean CCCCCCEEEEEEERRRRRRAAAAAAA!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Ricco.jpg

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