Pronounciation

Mystique
Mystique Posts: 342
edited July 2008 in The bottom bracket
I've never known how to pronounce Veloce (as in Campag Veloce) - Is it Vel-oss or Vel-oh-chay. I know which is "proper" Italian, but would it be considered too camp in a UK bike shop?

Opinions please...

Ta (sorry, Grazie)
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  • jpembroke
    jpembroke Posts: 2,569
    Vel-otch-ee is how I've always pronounced it. Vel-oh-chay may be the correct way to say it but it just sounds a bit sloany to me.

    Do you actually have an LBS that sells Campag then? Lucky you.
    I'm only concerned with looking concerned
  • Mystique
    Mystique Posts: 342
    A bit too far along the M4 for you, but AW Cycles in Reading are brilliant for Campag (and most other things too...)

    Thanks for the input.
  • SCR Pedro
    SCR Pedro Posts: 912
    Hey mate, go along with the proper Italian pronounciation. I once went into a bike shop and asked about ordering a Dawes Giro. I pronounced it as if I were talking about a Bank Giro or something, and not the classier sounding "Zhee-ro".

    Needless to say, I felt quite the idiot!

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  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    I used to work for an Alfa Romeo dealership (in a sloaney part of London) and as long as you didnt say Vel-oss we didnt mind really :lol:

    Are you sure that you are pronouncing Campagnolo properly? :roll:
  • Mystique
    Mystique Posts: 342
    Cam-pan-yo-low??
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    Mystique wrote:
    Cam-pan-yo-low??

    Thats the way I have always believed to be correct. Perhaps I should get myself a bike that actually has some on it next 8)
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    Mystique wrote:
    Cam-pan-yo-low??
    That's correct, and Bianchi is pronounced Bian-key not Bian-chee (watch Stars and Watercarriers - one of the teams was Bianchi-Campagnolo and you hear the Italian announcer introducing them to the crowd).
  • Jez mon
    Jez mon Posts: 3,809
    To be fair your unlikely to get laughed at for incorrect pronunciation at AW it's a friendly place (unless your one of those people who requests to look at every single piece of stock and then declares you're not really looking to buy anything)

    However, I would recommend you go on a weekday, or early on a Saturday otherwise you can be waiting for some time. Nothing wrong with that IMO, but you probably don't want to waste your time waiting.
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  • grayo59
    grayo59 Posts: 722
    Of course it's pronunciation, not pronounciation .. :wink:

    Mind you, even BBC "youf" presenters get this one wrong!
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  • nasahapley
    nasahapley Posts: 717
    What about Wilier? Is it Vill-ee-ay?
  • Soreknees
    Soreknees Posts: 68
    Hope you don't mind me hi-jacking your thread but while you're on the subject of pronunciation is it cay-dense or CA-dense. Or caid-ENCE or..... :roll:
    Hmmm... does it really matter? :D
  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    And what about Croce d'Aune? :lol:
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  • cam-pan-yo-low as in shee-mah-noh

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  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    Wilier isn't VILIER, its Will-ee-er.

    My dad looked it up on some translating website after having conversations about it after he got his TT bike.
  • HungryCol
    HungryCol Posts: 532
    Caisse d'Epargne anyone? I say: "Cas de-pang"
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    After hearing on German radio and advert for "Yah-oo-ah" cars, I' ve given up on pronouncing foreign words 'correctly' in english.
    How do you imagine they pronounce 'Chorus' or 'Xenon' in italian?
    If my French colleague is anything to go by they make no effort to correctly pronounce English words that look like french words....
  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    will3 wrote:
    After hearing on German radio and advert for "Yah-oo-ah" cars, I' ve given up on pronouncing foreign words 'correctly' in english.
    How do you imagine they pronounce 'Chorus' or 'Xenon' in italian?
    If my French colleague is anything to go by they make no effort to correctly pronounce English words that look like french words....

    Its selective, who says Paree rather than Paris?
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    Its selective, who says Paree rather than Paris?
    I do when pronouncing Paris-Roubaix, but I wouldn't do if I was telling an English person that I was going to visit Paris. Er, so yes - I'm a bit selective about it.
  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    What do you suppose is the proper Japanese pronunciation of Deore, Ultegra and Dura Ace?
  • Squaggles
    Squaggles Posts: 875
    will3 wrote:
    After hearing on German radio and advert for "Yah-oo-ah" cars, I' ve given up on pronouncing foreign words 'correctly' in english.
    .

    It took me ages to work this out , it's Jaguar , right ?
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  • nasahapley
    nasahapley Posts: 717
    JC.152 wrote:
    Wilier isn't VILIER, its Will-ee-er.

    My dad looked it up on some translating website after having conversations about it after he got his TT bike.

    It may be correct, but Will-ee-er sounds much sill-ee-er

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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    Squaggles wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    After hearing on German radio and advert for "Yah-oo-ah" cars, I' ve given up on pronouncing foreign words 'correctly' in english.
    .

    It took me ages to work this out , it's Jaguar , right ?

    I assumed so.
  • brookter
    brookter Posts: 51
    HungryCol wrote:
    Caisse d'Epargne anyone? I say: "Cas de-pang"

    It's more like 'kess dayparn', with the last bit sounding something like the ñ in the spanish 'mañana' - roughly means 'savings bank'.

    David
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    I once went into an off-licence in the East end of Glasgow in search of a bottle of wine. It had to be French wine (and not just 4 cans of Tennents) because I needed to impress the not-yet-Mrs Pneumatic.

    As is the custom in those parts, the place was set up like a wild west jail, with all the drink (and the delightful serveuse) behind a steel fence.

    So, rather than picking up my bottle, I had to ask for it by name. Beads of sweat appeared on my brow.

    I tried "Cotes du Rhone" as a French person would (cot du ron). Nae chance.
    I tried "Cotes du Rhone" as an English person would (coats du rone). Blank and slightly hostile look.
    I then tried it in my estimate of local dialect (Coayut doo rhoone). Bingo!


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  • simon johnson
    simon johnson Posts: 1,064
    Some northerner on Shaftesbury Avenue: 'Ay up, get tickets fur 'Les Mis-ra -bulls'"
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    apparently, 105 is pronounced:
    百および5

    :roll:
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    will3 wrote:
    Squaggles wrote:
    will3 wrote:
    After hearing on German radio and advert for "Yah-oo-ah" cars, I' ve given up on pronouncing foreign words 'correctly' in english.
    .

    It took me ages to work this out , it's Jaguar , right ?

    I assumed so.

    Difficult word

    Jag-yoo-wurr for about half of Britain
    Ja-gyoo-ar for the other half

    Jay-gwarr if you're American...


    And did somewone mention arf a roh-me-oh ?
  • Salsiccia
    Salsiccia Posts: 405
    And what about Croce d'Aune? :lol:

    'cro-tchay dow-nay' is my best effort at a transliteration

    Mind you, hearing people ask for a latte coffee makes me smile - 'can I have a lah-tay please'

    But I also remember lusting after a 'bian-chee' bike with 'sinelli' bars and stem as a teenager :oops:
    I was only joking when I said
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  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    seeinng as were on this what about mavic ksyrium

    is syrium with a silent k

    or kuh-syrium?

    your votes please
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  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    or cuss-irium ?