Shimano on Colnagos - Is it fair?

Jashin

Makes more sense to me to have the left hand lever for the front brake anyway - left hand is controllng brakes and mech at the front of the bike, right hand the rear.

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DavidBelcher

celbianchi wrote:

I take it all this gushing about Italian bikes and groupsets means that all of you who are (in some cases a bit tongue in cheek I am sure) so set in your ways ensure for the full Italian experience you have the front brake on the left hand shifter and the back on the right.

For cyclo-cross, yes - stops the front wheel rolling about when carrying the bike on my shoulder.

David

meesterbond

phips wrote:

Yup. I bought a C40 some years ago, and despite loving the look of Campag and feeling that it was sacrilege to stick Shimano on it, I still did. Every time I test ride Campag and try to get on with those shifters, I can't. That stupid thumb shifter is in totally the wrong position for my hands, so Shimano it is.

I still feel dirty - but comfortable

You do realise that by doing that you made the baby Jesus cry... I hope you can live with yourself!!

beancounter

This thread is useless without pictures.

bc

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beancounter

phips wrote:

beancounter wrote:

This thread is useless without pictures.

bc

You want one of me looking dirty? :shock:

Not really, but thanks.

I meant the Colnago's.

bc

Matchstick Man

back in the 1980's before STI's then Colnagos = Campag with hidden spider arms on their chainsets, cobalto brakes,etc. Yummy yummy. 8)
However with Mapei and the C40's, Lampre/Fondriest in 1993 and the first C40 and then Rominger with Clas, and also Ferretti's Arisotea teams of Argentin, Sorenson and Riis all with Shimano on their Colnagos - it all made it ok to lust after Colnagos AND SHimano at the same time.

Now, Treks and Campag - utterly utterly wrong :evil:

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meagain

It's only STUFF you know. Never could see the point of S v C kerfuffle. Especially as both were on the other side in WW2.

giant_man

phips wrote:

Matchstick Man wrote:

Now, Treks and Campag - utterly utterly wrong :evil:

"Mutton dressed as lamb"?

Good grief you're telling me, hideous combination. :roll:

James_London

Did we go slightly off topic?!

redddraggon

meagain wrote:

It's only STUFF you know. Never could see the point of S v C kerfuffle. Especially as both were on the other side in WW2.

I though the Italians didn't know what side they were on?

Garry H

redddraggon wrote:

meagain wrote:

It's only STUFF you know. Never could see the point of S v C kerfuffle. Especially as both were on the other side in WW2.

I though the Italians didn't know what side they were on?

The winning one, at any given time

pjm-84

Most of the big brands are overpriced IMO, not just Colnago, I don't think I'll spend £2500 on a frame unless I was rolling in money, with plenty of good frames available under the £1000 mark if you look around.

Having broken 4 carbon frames at the £1400 mark in 3 years and one cross bike I thought long and hard about my next frame. Riding a Moots revealed a very flexy rear triangle so I ruled TI out. Couldn't ride an Extreme Power but the quality far surpassed anything else I've seen so I gave it a go. I have to say I'm not at all dissappointed. Stiff but not harsh. How do they do it?

jrduquemin

Nope, Campag dude. If I had the kind of money to splurge on an Italian masterpiece, it would have to have Campag on it. Saw a Pinarello the other day with Shimano on it, didn't look right at all....

andrewgturnbull

Hi there.

All this chat of "doesn't look right" is pure bike snobbery.

Here's the facts: when I first got into cycling and got my first decent bonus from work (y2k) I went out and bought a lovely nine-speed campag groupset. Why? Because of listening to opinions like the ones expressed above - on uk.rec.cycling, rec.bicycles.sport and other usenet groups.

Technically I didn't have a clue - I just went with the crowd. 8 years later I have learnt that I prefer shimano - I've got Ultegra or Dura Ace on all my geared bikes now. In my opinion it's better value for money and the ergonomics suit me far better.

I wish I'd done my research properly in the first place rather than listening to all the snobbery!

There's way too much "how good does my bike look?", "how do I clean my white bar tape?", "which £1500 wheelset should I get for my sportive?" nonsense on here just now. Maybe it's just the time of year...

Sorry for being grumpy - I think I'm turing into dennisn...

JUST RIDE YOUR F******G BIKE! ;-)

Cheers, Andy

Rob Sallnow

Did anyone see the Colnago model announced for 2009 on cyclingnews a couple of weeks ago?

Colnago's 2009 range will be joined by a new "aggressive, ultra-modern" carbon fiber CX-1 frameset. In spite of the misleading name, the CX-1 is designed exclusively for road use and will be the lightest the company offers with a claimed weight of 995g, about 100g below the current Extreme-C.

The CX-1 will be built in Asia with a monocoque front triangle and separately lugged and bonded B-Stay-like seat stay and chain stay assemblies. Main tubes bear a multi-sided polygonal profile while the stays are treated to a somewhat more traditional shape. In a first for Colnago, the CX-1 will also make use of a semi-integrated internal-cup headset

A couple of years ago Uncle Ernesto said he would never put a hidden headset on his frames as he wanted riders to have a choice of decent headsets...guess the fashion demands it now. It'll be interesting to see if this is throughout the range or just this frame.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id= ... X-1_Bianco

I think it's ok to put Shimano on an Asian Colnago...but not a real one!!!1

andrewgturnbull

Rob Sallnow wrote:

I'd rather walk than use Shimano

That's what I'm talking about!

Rob Sallnow

andrewgturnbull wrote:

Rob Sallnow wrote:

I'd rather walk than use Shimano

That's what I'm talking about!

JUST RIDE YOUR F******G BIKE!....and stop moaning about what other people want to hang on their bikes.

Cheers

andrewgturnbull

Will do!

pjm-84

I wish I'd done my research properly in the first place rather than listening to all the snobbery!

Mine has my Record groupset from 2004 although 4 years down the line I treated myself to the new Record chainset, my cassette is Veloce because I find these far stronger and better wearing, my wheels are handbuilt 32 spokes Mavic Ceramic with Tune Hubs, my pedals are Ultegra SPD-SL, my front mech is Chorus(because I kept breaking Record ones), my chain is Dura Ace (Because they last longer and I haven't snapped one... yet) My bars and stem are Deda alloy, my seat post is a Bontrager taken off my Trek Top Fuel MTB.

All tried and tested parts that get a right hammering from me and do the job. Where's the snobbery?

Ash_

OK - what about SRAM?

I´ve got a CLX (yeah, I know it´s not a ´real´ Colnago, so the anti-shimano rules don't apply (they don't exist anyway, just in keeping with the 'spirit' of the thread)) and I just can´t get on with Ultegra STIs (they´ve gotten too big compared to previous designs). So, I´m thinking - keep the brakes and chainset (it´s FSA) and buy SRAM shifters and mechs, meaning I can still use my existing wheelset.

I can't decide if this would be unique and cool looking or a total mistake (an expensive mistake at that)...

andrewgturnbull

pjm-84 wrote:

I wish I'd done my research properly in the first place rather than listening to all the snobbery!

Mine has my Record groupset from 2004 although 4 years down the line I treated myself to the new Record chainset, my cassette is Veloce because I find these far stronger and better wearing, my wheels are handbuilt 32 spokes Mavic Ceramic with Tune Hubs, my pedals are Ultegra SPD-SL, my front mech is Chorus(because I kept breaking Record ones), my chain is Dura Ace (Because they last longer and I haven't snapped one... yet) My bars and stem are Deda alloy, my seat post is a Bontrager taken off my Trek Top Fuel MTB.

All tried and tested parts that get a right hammering from me and do the job. Where's the snobbery?

Hi there - if you're happy with your groupset, that's great. I have never criticised anyone else's choices, only my own! The snobbery is in the title of the post... in Rob's signature line and various other posts inbetween.

Cheers, Andy

Rob Sallnow

andrewgturnbull wrote:

Hi there - if you're happy with your groupset, that's great. I have never criticised anyone else's choices, only my own! The snobbery is in the title of the post... in Rob's signature line and various other posts inbetween.

Cheers, Andy

Well that's a lie for a start as you then immediately criticise my choice.

andrewgturnbull

Hi there.

I'm not going to get into an argument with anyone here (or further into one). Let me just say that I didn't critise your choicie, only your attitude! But I guess you'r'e free to express yourself however you wish.

Cheers, Andrew

cyclingvet

Ash, you've asked the very question I was going to!

I also have a CLX fitted out with Shimano (I replaced the FSA crankset it came with because it was rubbish--left crank always creaking) and also have an Enigma Esprit that I built up a few months ago with a mix of SRAM Force and Rival which I bought from the US at a huge saving (at the time!) last autumn. I must say I really do prefer the SRAM - the double tap gear shifting works like a dream and and IMHO is superior to both Shimano and Campag.

I was discussing this thread with one of my cycling buddies I was out with this morning, who's attitude is "do what you like"--he has an american bike (Cannondale) with Campag, so what's the difference the other way round (Italian bike with american groupset)?
I'm sure I saw a photo of one the pro team's Colnagos with SRAM Red on it recently.

I'm very tempted to fit out my Colnago CLX with SRAM and put the Shimano stuff on my winter bike.

bendertherobot

Metal, plastic, carbon. That's all. Manufactured in similar ways. Bent in similar ways. Doing the same job.

4candles

Rob Sallnow wrote:

andrewgturnbull wrote:

Rob Sallnow wrote:

I'd rather walk than use Shimano

That's what I'm talking about!

JUST RIDE YOUR F******G BIKE!....and stop moaning about what other people want to hang on their bikes.

Cheers

Hmm... Pot, Kettle and Black....