Boris....

bagpusscp

Well London you voted for him.....Is he up to the job?

iainf72

No he's not. But I'm sure he'll give some "lol, he's so un-PC" moments for the great unwashed.

jpembroke

Further proof - if we needed any - that we should never have referenda on anything of great importance in this country.

Gavin Gilbert

I feel sick. I really cannot believe that Londoners voted for the complete arse. And voted the BNP on to the Assembly too.

So now the investment will dry up, transport will be thrown back 10 years, the tube unions provoked into needless strikes. The roads will clog with cars again, and the much improved air quality will worsen.

All this will impact on jobs. Proper jobs, not the nu-Labour minimum wage McJobs but £50k numbers in finance and media as the Corporates invest resources in locations where their staff will actually be able to get to work in the morning.

So that's me leaving London now. And maybe even the UK.....

nick hanson

Gavin Gilbert wrote:

I feel sick. I really cannot believe that Londoners voted for the complete ars*. And voted the BNP on to the Assembly too.

So now the investment will dry up, transport will be thrown back 10 years, the tube unions provoked into needless strikes. The roads will clog with cars again, and the much improved air quality will worsen.

All this will impact on jobs. Proper jobs, not the nu-Labour minimum wage McJobs but £50k numbers in finance and media as the Corporates invest resources in locations where their staff will actually be able to get to work in the morning.

So that's me leaving London now. And maybe even the UK.....

Thought Boris was supposed to be pro cycling?
Personally i think the absent minded buffon image must be an act,surely? time will tell

Gavin Gilbert

Too bloody right the buffoon image is an act, and he's used to to mask the fact that he is a nasty unreconstructed 70's style Conservative & Unionist bigot. The 1st May will go down as probably the biggest sucker moment in post war British history.

And don't be fooled by the cycling thing - there are people pulling de Pfeffel Johnsons strings who want rid of the C-Charge.

TheBoyBilly

So let's get this straight then. The C-charge is the greatest legacy of this arrogant, bullying tyrant? Not the £9 billion (and rising) to be spent on the 2012 Olympic white-elephant? (£6 billion over-budget already - which KL knew was a ridiculous estimate) The sycophantic rubbing shoulders with Preachers of Hate at Regent's Park? Or the dishonest handing out of construction contracts? As for bigotry, you fail to mention that your mate Ken has form here too. And your concern about £50k jobs in the City would be funny if it wasn't laughable. Perhaps you should get over to Ken's Palace before he clears his desk.......the average salary there is £70k.

You might be right, it may be time for you to leave London.

Gavin Gilbert

TheBoyBilly wrote:

So let's get this straight then. The C-charge is the greatest legacy of this arrogant, bullying tyrant? Not the £9 billion (and rising) to be spent on the 2012 Olympic white-elephant? (£6 billion over-budget already - which KL knew was a ridiculous estimate) The sycophantic rubbing shoulders with Preachers of Hate at Regent's Park? Or the dishonest handing out of construction contracts? As for bigotry, you fail to mention that your mate Ken has form here too. And your concern about £50k jobs in the City would be funny if it wasn't laughable. Perhaps you should get over to Ken's Palace before he clears his desk.......the average salary there is £70k.

You might be right, it may be time for you to leave London.

I was going to construct a full reply. But I'll be content just to call you a stupid cunt

Gavin Gilbert

that's 4 letters, starting with a C, ending in a T and with U & N involved too.

redddraggon

If Ken Livingstone was so good, and Boris Johnson so bad, why did people vote the way they did?

TheBoyBilly

And that's the second time in recent threads you have resorted to puerile insults and bad language (you can't teach me any, believe me), and not just against me. It diminishes your argument and only makes you look small (probably incapable of "constructing a full reply" too)
But seing as you have decended to the language of the sink estate may I quote one of your 'eroes, DelBoy? "There's none so blind as them wot won't listen"

jpembroke

For the same reason people buy tabloids instead of broadsheets, or watch Big Brother rather than Newsnight, perhaps. People, on the whole, are idiots.

Gavin Gilbert

TheBoyBilly wrote:

And that's the second time in recent threads you have resorted to puerile insults and bad language (you can't teach me any, believe me), and not just against me. It diminishes your argument and only makes you look small (probably incapable of "constructing a full reply" too)
But seing as you have decended to the language of the sink estate may I quote one of your 'eroes, DelBoy? "There's none so blind as them wot won't listen"

So which part of your cretinous drivel would you have me reply to? Having taken a look at your posting history there is every indication that you are based very far from London. So how in the blue blazes do you know how London works?

The thing is, whilst Dave C likes to dress the Tories up up The Cuddly Conservatives there's still nasty items like you posting crap on web forums proving what a cesspit lies beneath. As Londoners are sadly about to discover.

always_tyred

Boris ran for Rector of Edinburgh University.

He lost. Badly.

Time will tell if 17-21 year old Scottish undergraduates are more, or less, descerning than Londoners.

Parkey

Ken Livingstone seemed to be the only politician who understood that having a good integrated public transport network is essential. And yes, subsidise it with taxpayer's money because the taxpayer gets more than their money back with all the business and investment that gets attracted by it.

Compare this with the rest of England where the Labour party's transport policy is "lalalalalalalala! everything's fine! lalalalalalalalala!" as the country slowly grinds to a halt.

I will miss Ken Livingstone. I will not miss Labour when they finally get cast out in a couple of years.

I just hope that Boris has learnt this one important lesson from Ken.

ddraver

I think Mr Gilbert's a bit of a socialist......Are you the union rep at work too perhaps?

Gavin Gilbert

ddraver wrote:

I think Mr Gilbert's a bit of a socialist......Are you the union rep at work too perhaps?

Mr Gilbert is a Free Market Capitalist, English Nationalist, Republican, Atheist and a passionate believer in both Social Justice and Social Responsibilty. I am also a native Londoner, and a Partner in a succesful IT Services Provider selling skills into City of London Blue Chips.

London before Ken was an uncoordinated mess with appalling transport and roads, no sense of cohesion, little in the way of Civic Pride and no vision for the future. London with Ken was a place with and direction and above all a sense of of the possible. London under Ken was given back to Londoners.

Ken made London a better place is live and work. All of that is now seriously under threat.

sicrow

London before Ken was an uncoordinated mess with appalling transport and roads, no sense of cohesion, little in the way of Civic Pride and no vision for the future. London with Ken was a place with and direction and above all a sense of of the possible. London under Ken was given back to Londoners.

Ken made London a better place is live and work. All of that is now seriously under threat.

Not according to my colleagues who live in London and have found many of his policies strange to say the least.

Gavin Gilbert

sicrow wrote:

London before Ken was an uncoordinated mess with appalling transport and roads, no sense of cohesion, little in the way of Civic Pride and no vision for the future. London with Ken was a place with and direction and above all a sense of of the possible. London under Ken was given back to Londoners.

Ken made London a better place is live and work. All of that is now seriously under threat.

Not according to my colleagues who live in London and have found many of his policies strange to say the least.

My next door neighbours great aunt who has a friend in Hong Kong knows someone else in London is glad de Pfeffel Johnson got in either. It doesn't mean I have to be. If fact there is very little against Ken's record in office - other than a bunch of half-truths and outright lies from the London Evening Standard.

ddraver

if Mr johnsson worked for the Labour party would you be so dissmissive? i bet you'd be less quick to judge the publicly educated/oxvbridge candidate - would it help if boris spoke in a cockney accent perhaps? :P

Lets give him a shot - he didnt steal city hall he won it by getting the approval of the majority of your neighbours, so i'm afraid you re in a minority Gav, even there is a very small difference!

To put it another way - you re the first person ive heard come out in favour of ken for a bloody long time!

TheBoyBilly

So Gavin, here we are in a meeting of City of London Blue Chips and yourself when one of the aforementioned BC's has the temerity to disagree with you on something.

Do you:
a)Politely debate where you think the person has, in your opinion, got it wrong

OR

b) call him names and throw your toys out of the pram (probably banging fists on the table)

I know where my money is. And your firm's "successful"? You have yet to answer anything put to you on this subject in a measured manner, and more importantly, respectfully, but instead choose to use the bullboy tactics of your idol. Well it doesn't wash. And as for checking out my posting history, I find that really, erm how can I put this....odd. My very own CyberStalker.d
Yet all is not lost Gavster, I am going to use you at work when a colleague sees the red mist. I will tell him that he's "going all Gavin Gilbert" , (a la Pete Tong). Got a certain ring about it, don't you think?
Anyway, I digress, I am London born and bred, but moved to the coast eight years ago after getting frustrated at the way the London I loved was going. I still work in London and have yet to see any positive signs of Ken Livingstone.

Gavin Gilbert

yeah, whatever. Bring up one of your Daily Mail quotes about Boris and I'll counter it.

Gavin Gilbert

ddraver wrote:

To put it another way - you re the first person ive heard come out in favour of ken for a bloody long time!

try reading the rest of the replies. I'm not the only one here appalled by de Pfeffel Johnson as Mayor. Funny how none of the London crowd have come out in favour of Boris.

ddraver

that still doesnt explain why he s been voted in though does it gavin?

plus constantly calling him de pfeffel isnt helping - it makes you sound like a bit of a willy tbh - godd god i'm not a conservative/rich/or oxbridge and i ve got an embassaring middle name as well!

Captain Turok

Gavin Gilbert wrote:

yeah, whatever. Bring up one of your Daily Mail quotes about Boris and I'll counter it.

Won't change the fact that ken lost though..

Gavin Gilbert

Captain Turok wrote:

Gavin Gilbert wrote:

yeah, whatever. Bring up one of your Daily Mail quotes about Boris and I'll counter it.

Won't change the fact that ken lost though..

True - but this is Soapbox and we're here for a slanging match. I suspect I may know Billy in real life, and I don't like him there either.

Nice Signature BTW Turok. Sums life up perfectly

Captain Turok

Gavin Gilbert wrote:

this is Soapbox and we're here for a slanging match.

I'm a newbie to these forum things, and I'm learning that

People do get wound up!

iainf72

ddraver wrote:

that still doesnt explain why he s been voted in though does it gavin?

This is something I can't understand. Okay, I know he counted on the outer ring of London and I think many of the natural Tories came out just to sock one to labour. The voting numbers seem to show that too. But I don't know why someone would vote for him based on what he was campaigning around - I even spoke to a few right leaning friends and they couldn't see any firm policy.

I noticed the comments from one of the union leaders with interest (disaster for London)

Ken has done a really good job - Some of the vile stuff printed in the gutter press during the campaign was disgusting.

I wonder how many of the Boris voters chose BNP as their second choice.

Mike Healey

And Cameron is singing, "I've got my BoJo working"

ddraver

BJ will also be under close control of DC and the tory cabinet - no way are they gonna let him spoil their party

top_bhoy

Boris was good on 'Have I Got News For You'. I think that should count for something. :twisted: