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+1 for the Giro Atmos.
Now that the Ionos is top of their range the Atmos is a bargain compared to it's price pre Ionos.
Too cool in winter without a hat underneath.0 -
aracer wrote:
Not the case for the ones they sell in the UK AFAIK - only US versions are Snell.Cunobelin wrote:As always - if you are serious about head protection - providing the fit is OK go for Snell certified, which unfortunately in the UK really means Specialized.
The way I understand this is that there are minor cosmetic differences for the UK market (thats why the recent 2d recall didn't affect the UK)
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My mate just got one of these.
http://www.totalcycling.com/index.php/p ... 4_BLU.html
I have to say, I tried to talk him out of it, but it looks a whole lot better in the flesh. I've got the Giro Atmos, which is fine, but i find Giro tend skimp a bit on comfort i.e. little in the way of padding, strap lining, etc.0 -
It's certainly more than cosmetic - it seems the whole 2D strap system is different, and reports I've seen suggest the US 2D was heavier too. Very unconvinced that the European version would pass Snell - otherwise why not put the sticker in, and why have 2 different versions, when it appears the only reason for that is so that the US version passes Snell? If it really was just cosmetic, do you think the European ones wouldn't have been recalled too, given it was an issue with the strap (and if so, then that's hardly a recommendation to buy one!)Cunobelin wrote:aracer wrote:
Not the case for the ones they sell in the UK AFAIK - only US versions are Snell.Cunobelin wrote:As always - if you are serious about head protection - providing the fit is OK go for Snell certified, which unfortunately in the UK really means Specialized.
The way I understand this is that there are minor cosmetic differences for the UK market (thats why the recent 2d recall didn't affect the UK)
The basic design is the same, and the test is a measure of the design0 -
aracer wrote:
It's certainly more than cosmetic - it seems the whole 2D strap system is different, and reports I've seen suggest the US 2D was heavier too. Very unconvinced that the European version would pass Snell - otherwise why not put the sticker in, and why have 2 different versions, when it appears the only reason for that is so that the US version passes Snell? If it really was just cosmetic, do you think the European ones wouldn't have been recalled too, given it was an issue with the strap (and if so, then that's hardly a recommendation to buy one!)Cunobelin wrote:aracer wrote:
Not the case for the ones they sell in the UK AFAIK - only US versions are Snell.Cunobelin wrote:As always - if you are serious about head protection - providing the fit is OK go for Snell certified, which unfortunately in the UK really means Specialized.
The way I understand this is that there are minor cosmetic differences for the UK market (thats why the recent 2d recall didn't affect the UK)
The basic design is the same, and the test is a measure of the design
This site would appear to indicate that the European 2D ain't as sturdy as the US one.
http://helmets.org/helmet08.htm
Its not a bad summary of all the helmets on the market. Its particularly scathing of stylised Euro helmets that scrape by the lowest testing standards, especially Catlike, Lazer and LAS.It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.0 -
Timoid. wrote:aracer wrote:
It's certainly more than cosmetic - it seems the whole 2D strap system is different, and reports I've seen suggest the US 2D was heavier too. Very unconvinced that the European version would pass Snell - otherwise why not put the sticker in, and why have 2 different versions, when it appears the only reason for that is so that the US version passes Snell? If it really was just cosmetic, do you think the European ones wouldn't have been recalled too, given it was an issue with the strap (and if so, then that's hardly a recommendation to buy one!)Cunobelin wrote:aracer wrote:
Not the case for the ones they sell in the UK AFAIK - only US versions are Snell.Cunobelin wrote:As always - if you are serious about head protection - providing the fit is OK go for Snell certified, which unfortunately in the UK really means Specialized.
The way I understand this is that there are minor cosmetic differences for the UK market (thats why the recent 2d recall didn't affect the UK)
The basic design is the same, and the test is a measure of the design
This site would appear to indicate that the European 2D ain't as sturdy as the US one.
http://helmets.org/helmet08.htm
Its not a bad summary of all the helmets on the market. Its particularly scathing of stylised Euro helmets that scrape by the lowest testing standards, especially Catlike, Lazer and LAS.
Timoid -- that is interesting ... and comprehensive !
it confirms what i've heard elsewhere that there is a trade off between weight and style on the one hand and safety on the other.
i have a 2D !
it would be itneresting to quantify how inferior in impact protection a helmet like the 2D is to a basic £30 helmet ... don't think there is any data out there on this?0 -
it would be itneresting to quantify how inferior in impact protection a helmet like the 2D is to a basic £30 helmet .
I would have thought it would still be superior to the £30 helmet...0 -
I doubt it. there seems to be a pretty widely held view that many of the cheaper helmets from major manufacturers offer better protection than the lightweight / swept back type models.0
