Focus Cayo V Ribble dedacciai

sicrow

After lots of looking around I am likely to choose either the Focus Cayo £999 or the Ribble 12k monocoque dedacciai with Ultegra £1099 - With the Ribble I can drive up to them approx 1 hour and get measured. Not looking to Race but more of a sportive/ sunday morning 60 mile runs

Any thoughts and advice welcome please

fto-si

Be interesting to see what people have to say about Ribble. I am looking at the Dedacciai Scuro framed bike from them

redddraggon

I've got the Dedacciai Nero Corsa frame - it's good.

Doobz

I got the £1099 Nero Corsa From Ribble when it was £999 Its a nice frame and nice bike.. It loves to climb and is really stiff and responsive.. A few times I have felt myself climbing and just thought how comfortable I was. Its almost nicer riding it up hills then it is on flats.

I also tried the Dedacciai Scuro frame and found it less balanced then the Corsa. The Corsa has a real nice setback riding position where the Scuro made me feel forced forward.. (could have maybe not been set-up the same as the Corsa)

I was originally going to spend £1300 on something else and when I tested the corsa compared to the other bikes it just felt like quality.. Even on par with the £1500 - £1300 bikes with same groupset.. I love mine and I am sure redddraggon will also when he gets to ride it up some hills..

adios
doobz

azzerb

I'd vote for Ribble.

I love the look of Focus Cayo for a budget buy, yet those two should be pretty much similar, I'd rather pay the extra and get the close service of Ribble (hypocritical as my bike was all internet but still....)

Oh and i think i read somewhere that it's not all ultegra on the cayo? :S Not sure, can't remember right. Don't quote me on this, it's just a ramble! :P

alfablue

The Cayo is all Ultegra except the Truvativ Elita 2.2 chainset (and the wheels are Mavic Aksium).

azzerb

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/images/focus-cayo-08.jpg
http://wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx? ... ayo%202008

Front derailer neither, tho it might just be a standard Ultegra, not Ultegra SL.

Eat My Dust

azzerb wrote:

I'd vote for Ribble.

I love the look of Focus Cayo for a budget buy

This is the second time in a week that a £1000 bike has been refered to as "budget" or "entry level". Are you people taking drugs?

redddraggon

Eat My Dust wrote:

azzerb wrote:

I'd vote for Ribble.

I love the look of Focus Cayo for a budget buy

This is the second time in a week that a £1000 bike has been refered to as "budget" or "entry level". Are you people taking drugs?

I'd definitely say it was the upper end for entry level. Most carbon framesets don't start until around £1000 anyway, so to get a full carbon bike with Ultegra for £1000 is good - but it's still not a DA equipped Cervelo Soloist Carbon is it?

Personally my entry level bike was £270, but I was only young. A lot of people new to cycling have a lot of money and can afford to spend more £1000 on a bike. Buying a bike too cheap can lead to you wanting a better bike really quickly, so it might be said that it's worth spending a bit more on a first bike than originally intended.

Doobz

lol I find budget kinda insulting - ahh well who cares if you can ride better then those tools with 3 - 4k bikes

Ste_S

Doobz wrote:

lol I find budget kinda insulting - ahh well who cares if you can ride better then those tools with 3 - 4k bikes

Agree with the first part, the second part though smacks of jealousy.

azzerb

Budget is the wrong word. I pushed my budget for my bike which came to just over £1000, so budget no. My first road bike was about £300ish.

But huge value yes for the cayo. The bike should be a lot more than that from some other manufacturers.

richardjallen

redddraggon wrote:

Buying a bike too cheap can lead to you wanting a better bike really quickly, so it might be said that it's worth spending a bit more on a first bike than originally intended.

So true.

el_presidente

redddraggon wrote:

I've got the Dedacciai Nero Corsa frame - it's good.

how do you know, have you actually ridden it yet?

redddraggon

el_presidente wrote:

redddraggon wrote:

I've got the Dedacciai Nero Corsa frame - it's good.

how do you know, have you actually ridden it yet?

I have

andyfromletchworth

now thats interesting, dropped off this forum for 3 years due to a move up north, new job and 2 kids............ amazed to see a thread where ribble doesnt get flamed. when i was on here ribble used to get a negative press but it seemed to smack of snobbery to me.

so are we less snobby?? or are ribble making better bikes?

andy.

rdaviesb

or are ribble making better bikes?

They are, and they've sorted their stock control out as well.

cookiemonster

I have a Cayo, its a great bike and I'm very happy with it.The only issue is that the head tube is quite short - out of the box i had a 10cm drop between saddle and bars, which is, for me, fairly extreme; perhaps fine for a true race bike, but for sundays, training and sportives, I dont want to be so low at the front. I sorted it by fitting a new stem with a 17 degree rise, giving me a 4cm drop between bars and saddle - happy for up to 150km rides.

So, my feeling is that the cayo attempts to be a true "race bike", but is actually bought mainly by fairly new riders that want sportive / training bikes and dont need the large drop. Maybe then be prepared either to do a bit of sorting to get a more relaxed ride (leaving you with a terrific bike though), go for something more relaxed, or get fitted with ribble, etc so you get a good fit out of the box as it were.

Just my 2p :-)

Jon

Clem

I have a Scuro frame - not ridden yet as Easton SLX forks are still on their way - and hope it will be the best bike I've ever had, despite being somewhat cheaper than the Airborne Zepp which I still love and which shrugs off baggage handlers' hammers with ease.

The bottom line isn't really the cost, is it? A great bike's a great bike at any price...

Harry B

Can't speak for the Ribble but I got a Cayo Expert last year and have been really please with it. The only thing I've changed is the saddle, pedals and bar tape. But you could expect to change those anyway.

Pete789uk

I have just brought a cayo was not sure about buying online and its the most I ever spent on a bike but at £999 for cabon bike with good spec.
I ahve to say wiggle was good arrived quick well packaged and juts had to set seat and handlebars and we she went so pretty good I guess.
I guess I would like to support local bike shop but hey they dont do 12 month pay later at 0% if you want it and i saved around £200 to £300 so I am well happy

Clem

Yes, I think the shops can only survive by selling bikes to parents with kids, repairs and impulse purchases.

They just can't compete on race stuff at their prices. A shame but there you are.

huwy

I have a Cayo great bike loving it like others have changed the saddle & bar tape it rides beautifully and I'm beating guys on bikes 2x my paltry and obviously 'budget' £1k outlay

redddraggon

huwy wrote:

I have a Cayo great bike loving it like others have changed the saddle & bar tape it rides beautifully and I'm beating guys on bikes 2x my paltry and obviously 'budget' £1k outlay

I don't know why people get offended when people say £1K is "budget". It is for a top quality road bike. It doesn't mean you can't get good a good bike though. I spent £270 on my first road bike.

£2K Colnago (made in Taiwan) with 105 v £1k Focus/PX (also made in the far east) with Ultegra. I know which I would choose (and it wouldn't be the upmarket Italian brand).

£1K is a reasonable amount to spend on a first bike (or 2nd/3rd/4th etc). After all it's rarely the bike that wins races.

huwy

Hi reddragon I think you misundertsood my sarcasm, aimed at those that turn their noses up at a bike from Wiggle even my lbs was rude about my bike (needless to say I won't be shopping their again)

£1k is in my mind a big chunk of cash and the Cayo in my eyes is a thing of beauty ...

trw999

Newbie, first post, good day.

I have come into road bikes from MTB's and didn't have a clue as to what to buy. Coming onto this and other forums, as well as to reviews in the cycling press, led me to wiggle's door and the base Cayo.

I have now done about 500 miles on it and have no regrets at all. I changed the saddle to a BG Toupe Gel, put on winter tyres and flipped over the stem to raise the handlebars a bit and that's it. I find it comfortable, I am getting faster, it is reliable and I am happy. My intial trepidation about buying off the net was ill-founded, wiggle have been and continue to be very good to deal with and all I need to do now is find a good LBS to service the bike for me.

huwy

I have done exactly the same changed to BG Toupe Gel, changed the bar tape flipped the stem - and put on some Fulcrum R3's that were offered to me at a Price too good to turn down, what a bike I Love it.

And even better buying it on bike too work

Pete789uk

I have just brought a cayo its the most I have spent on a bike and I am over the moon with super value and all I ahd to do was take it out the box set seat and turn bars happy days

Clem

Huwy, enjoy those New Forest and coastal roads on your bike - my only reservation is a little one on the Bike to Work scheme...

If you're getting a pension through your work (and you really should be, if one is available) there is an impact on this 'fund' for the rest of your life from having bought a bike this way. It's a big saving on the bike initially but the Government will claw it back eventually (assuming you don't die young but happy).

I have to live with a degree of debt management but I wouldn't use Bike to Work as I hope to be paid a pension for decades after I 'retire'.

Anyway, the topic is on cheap quality carbon and basically we can ride around on bikes now that TdF riders would've killed for a few years ago, so hurrah to that!

Squaggles

I'm also amazed to hear that Ribble bikes are having good things said about them these days . If you mentioned them on the old cycling+ site you'd have 30 pages of complaints about their customer service !

huwy

woahhh I am now intrested as to how a £1k loan from my employer to buy a bike to commute to work on can effect my pension contributions as I would imagine a lot if people have purchased this way !