Behave yourselves

secretsam

I've just got a couple of rants about fellow 2-wheeled warriors:

1. Quick message to the d1ck who thought it was OK to overtake away from the lights into a line of bikes coming the other way: it's called apologising, you ignorant f :evil: ck. Next time I'll thump you.

2. 4x4 riders (MTBs) - get proper guards, it's no fun being stuck up your chuff with 20 gallons of spray coming off your never-seen-dirt knobblies 'cos you've got those pathetic bum-protectors.

RELEASE THE RAGE

I am fully prepared to be moderated, frankly am in a foul mood and couldn't care less.

spasypaddy

see sometimes im glad i dont see another bike on the road on my commute!

Drfabulous0

SecretSam wrote:

2. 4x4 riders (MTBs) - get proper guards, it's no fun being stuck up your chuff with 20 gallons of spray coming off your never-seen-dirt knobblies 'cos you've got those pathetic bum-protectors.

That's just silly, they would have to be enormous to surround the tyre, the would look ridiculous and there would not be enough clearance for the heavy build up of mud you get on MTB tyres off road.
As for getting sprayed, why don't you just overtake? As you're on a faster bike and all.

Totalnewbie

Ahh yes let me join in.

I was less than impressed, shall we say, with the twit riding the wrong way down a one way bit about to plough into me as I crossed over into the park; unsurprisingly I was looking the other way for traffic and just managed to stop to avoid him when I saw something out of the corner of my eye. He just looked at me and carried on as though he had right of way. Thanks for that.

Clever Pun

Drfabulous0 wrote:

As for getting sprayed, why don't you just overtake? As you're on a faster bike and all.

this or ride slightly to one side

I don't have mudguards and I'm on a roadie.

Mog Uk

And deep breathe, and relax..... Inhale, exhale..................

alfablue

Drfabulous0 wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

2. 4x4 riders (MTBs) - get proper guards, it's no fun being stuck up your chuff with 20 gallons of spray coming off your never-seen-dirt knobblies 'cos you've got those pathetic bum-protectors.

That's just silly, they would have to be enormous to surround the tyre, the would look ridiculous and there would not be enough clearance for the heavy build up of mud you get on MTB tyres off road.
As for getting sprayed, why don't you just overtake? As you're on a faster bike and all.

SKS P65 'guards fit fine with 1.95 ish mtb tyres

Belv

With the first one, you have a point.

If you're in the spray of an MTB, you're probably riding too close for the conditions.

A - W

6/10. More swearing needed.



Although the number of commuters without lights does get my goat.

Also those that wear Hi Viz stuff and then cover it over with a back pack. :roll:

jefferee

Frankly, where I live, I'm more likely to swear (out of amazement) when I see somebody on a bike who's NOT doing something stupid or illegal.

About 80% of the bikes I see are on the sidewalks (pavements for you British folk...). :roll:

PrettyBoyTim

Not a bike, but today I saw this interesting bit of driving on my way in. To be fair on him though, it looked like an honest mistake.

Random Vince

alfablue wrote:

Drfabulous0 wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

SKS P65 'guards fit fine with 1.95 ish mtb tyres

my mountain bike is on 2.5 inch tyres as my usual riding spots are very soft even when dry and i like to spred the weight and not sink in.

that and i can get away with a lower pressure for grip when riding the slate laden trails of the lake district.

might get round to putting guards on and they will be the silly ones you mention, either back off or overtake me, i'm not going that fast, and i can most likely out brake you due to running hydrolic disk brakes - as someone said, shouldnt be too close in the wet

the proper full guards wont fit my bike, there is no mount above the wheel to hang them from

El Capitano

SecretSam wrote:

I've just got a couple of rants about fellow 2-wheeled warriors:
2. 4x4 riders (MTBs) - get proper guards,

Why should I?

Just stay the hell out of my slip-stream if you're worried you'll get a bit of spray on you!

TBH, the same goes for my regular commuter bike - no guards.

alfablue

Random Vince wrote:

alfablue wrote:

Drfabulous0 wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

SKS P65 'guards fit fine with 1.95 ish mtb tyres

the proper full guards wont fit my bike, there is no mount above the wheel to hang them from

My bike (Rock Lobster Team Ti) doesn't have read guard mounts either - I got some high quality p-clips (with rubber inners) from Stagonset


The clips are a little way up the stay, they work fine, the guard is rock solid. A similar arrangement could work on the brake bridge if it is not drilled for the upper fitting.

Random Vince

my brake bridge is none existant, the chainstayas go in at 45 deg to a rather wide tube (its an on-one inbred so is slightly random)

alfablue

Ah, I see - the down tube where the seat stays join could be drilled I guess (my front forks - Kona P2's are drilled like this), but a bit extreme.

homercles

PrettyBoyTim wrote:

Not a bike, but today I saw this interesting bit of driving on my way in. To be fair on him though, it looked like an honest mistake.

That's quite amusing.

jedster

<i>Why should I?

Just stay the hell out of my slip-stream if you're worried you'll get a bit of spray on you!
</i>

Yeah, no reason other than to be considerate to other road users. You may not give a toss about being considerate to other people - there's a technical term for people like that: @rseholes.

You might just as well say as a motorist "why shouldn't I just drive through that puddle right next to a cyclist/ped? If they were worried about getting sprayed they wouldn't be near the puddle".

MTB tyres throw up more spray than road tyres so it is incrementally less inconsiderate on slicks versus nobblies.

I totally understand that someone riding a road section to get to an off-road ride is not going to have guards but for regular road commuting - get some 1.25 or 1.5 slicks and get some guards - or leave the bike at home when it's raining.

Or just recognise that you are a selfish git.

Cheers,
J

tardington

Pretty much agree there - if your'e on the road (with other cyclists) you should make a bit of an effort...

Besides, what about the plastic clip-on mudguards? I fitted some to my dad's bike and they do fine.

My whinge : coming down a two-bike-wide cycle path, some bloke decides to overtake the person coming towards me - did he really think I'd turn off the road into a tree?

A - W

I'm playing devils advocate here but: :twisted:

How many have mud guards on their car?

Are they selfish if they don't have them on?

BentMikey

I don't think it's fair to call other cyclists without mudguards selfish.

tardington

:P cars come with mudguards on!

Well, mud-flaps, anyway. (is that what they're called?)

alfablue

Good try, A-W but cars do have mudguards by virtue of their wheel arches. Cars with open wheels (Caterham 7, Ariel Atom and the like) are required to have mudguards.

A - W

Mud flaps thats the one.

tardington

BentMikey wrote:

I don't think it's fair to call other cyclists without mudguards selfish.

Ah go on! They are mucky pups!

homercles

I think the earlier point that if you're close enough to be getting sprayed by the other cyclist in traffic then you're probably too close for the conditions is a fair one.

secretsam

Drfabulous0 wrote:

SecretSam wrote:

2. 4x4 riders (MTBs) - get proper guards, it's no fun being stuck up your chuff with 20 gallons of spray coming off your never-seen-dirt knobblies 'cos you've got those pathetic bum-protectors.

That's just silly, they would have to be enormous to surround the tyre, the would look ridiculous and there would not be enough clearance for the heavy build up of mud you get on MTB tyres off road.
As for getting sprayed, why don't you just overtake? As you're on a faster bike and all.

Don't care and I did

:evil:

Release the...etc.

secretsam

A - W wrote:

Although the number of commuters without lights does get my goat.

Aaaarghh!!! RAGE!!!!! THE FURY!!!! AAAARRRRGGGHHHHHH! (etc)

A - W wrote:

Also those that wear Hi Viz stuff and then cover it over with a back pack. :roll:

That would be me, then (too tight to buy a hump pack thing). No rage here.

secretsam

jedster wrote:

<i>Why should I?

Just stay the hell out of my slip-stream if you're worried you'll get a bit of spray on you!
</i>

Yeah, no reason other than to be considerate to other road users. You may not give a toss about being considerate to other people - there's a technical term for people like that: @rseholes.

You might just as well say as a motorist "why shouldn't I just drive through that puddle right next to a cyclist/ped? If they were worried about getting sprayed they wouldn't be near the puddle".

MTB tyres throw up more spray than road tyres so it is incrementally less inconsiderate on slicks versus nobblies.

I totally understand that someone riding a road section to get to an off-road ride is not going to have guards but for regular road commuting - get some 1.25 or 1.5 slicks and get some guards - or leave the bike at home when it's raining.

Or just recognise that you are a selfish git.

Cheers,
J

THE RAGE IS STRONG WITH THIS ONE :twisted: :evil:

cupofteacp

How do you fit mudguards to front suspension?

If you're getting sprayed by the bike infront, you're too close

A - W

SecretSam wrote:

A - W wrote:

]Also those that wear Hi Viz stuff and then cover it over with a back pack. :roll:

That would be me, then (too tight to buy a hump pack thing). No rage here.

I'm too tight to buy a hum pack thingy too, I just put my hi viz vest on my back pack. 8)