FAO Richard Hammond

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  • OffTheBackAdam
    OffTheBackAdam Posts: 1,869
    jashburnham wrote:
    What about us poor Mac users! Come on Beeb, sort it out.
    What people actually don't buy Microsoft products????? :shock:
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  • bryanm
    bryanm Posts: 218
    chrisjsmith wrote:
    I lose faith in the BBC with their proprietary crap.

    If you want to watch television you buy a telly, if you want to watch iPlayer buy a windows PC. I don't understand what the big deal is?

    Or did you buy a telly and then expect it to microwave your dinner and wash the dishes as well?
  • Parkey
    Parkey Posts: 303
    The difference between this race and the others they've done is that in cities journey times are a lot less predictable. There were no scheduled public transport services and no driving on uncongested motorways so they couldn't pre-plan it to be a very close race but one which the car would win.

    My favourite is still the one where Hammond and May stand about for an hour at a bus stop to give Carkson a head start, then get on a train and arrive in Monte Carlo at the same time as him, although strangely he had no trouble parking his car. :P
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  • chrisjsmith
    chrisjsmith Posts: 280
    Yeah London is hugely unpredictable. They should have included the humble taxi in the race to be honest as they are equipped with additional knowledge.

    Slightly OT section....
    OffTheBackAdam wrote:
    jashburnham wrote:
    What about us poor Mac users! Come on Beeb, sort it out.
    What people actually don't buy Microsoft products????? :shock:

    Not intentionally. Most people (90%) are unaware and don't care about any alternatives. Show them a Mac - they'll buy it because it looks nicer. There's just a lot of PCs in shops.
    BRYANM wrote:
    If you want to watch television you buy a telly, if you want to watch iPlayer buy a windows PC. I don't understand what the big deal is?

    I have got a windows PC. It doesn't work on Vista. That is not a limitation of the technology, rather than an artificial restriction placed on it's usage. Point demonstrated.

    DRM again?
  • bryanm
    bryanm Posts: 218
    Nonsense. It's naff all to do with DRM.

    DRM is the fact that regardless of whether you were to run it on a O/S X, Windows, Linux, or any one of the miriad of alternative O/S's you only have 30 days to watch a program once you've downloaded it.

    Sat here at work I'm using,

    DG/UX
    Redhat 3
    Redhat 4
    Centos
    Oracle Enterprise Linux
    HP TRU64
    Sun OS
    HP/UX
    AIX
    Windows NT / 2000 / 2003 / XP

    Presumably you think the BBC should support all of them?

    I started a thread because I thought it was interesting to cyclists, all I get is people bleating that the BBC don't support their minority O/S.

    Personally I'm more concerned that the BBC are wasting liceence fees on a pointless service rather than making better programs.
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    If you want to watch television you buy a telly, if you want to watch iPlayer buy a windows PC. I don't understand what the big deal is?

    Or did you buy a telly and then expect it to microwave your dinner and wash the dishes as well?

    I was going to buy a microsoft fridge, until I realised that it was only compatible with Microsoft-specific butter packets, milk cartons, orange juice and beer bottles. What is more, white wine produced before 2006 could not be stored in it, either. It then transpired that the anti-virus system (i.e. the cooling plant) had to be purchased separately and a monthly fee paid to keep it running safely.

    :)

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  • bryanm
    bryanm Posts: 218
    pneumatic wrote:
    I was going to buy a microsoft fridge, until I realised that it was only compatible with Microsoft-specific butter packets, milk cartons, orange juice and beer bottles. What is more, white wine produced before 2006 could not be stored in it, either. It then transpired that the anti-virus system (i.e. the cooling plant) had to be purchased separately and a monthly fee paid to keep it running safely.

    :)

    I've got that Microsoft fridge you're on about. I use Open Office butter, milk and orange juice, iTunes beer and the cooling plant is from AVG.
  • chrisjsmith
    chrisjsmith Posts: 280
    I don't expect to run it on everything, just what people use in a desktop environment, which undeniably it's not working on. Vista and MacOS are hardly "waaay out there" like VMS or something are they?

    With regards to DRM, the comparison I'm drawing is about alienating users.

    The service is a good idea, but the implementation is shit. I agree about the licensing fees. I just think BBC should rely on something cross platform for their media (like Flash Video) as I'm in the objective audience yet I can't view it. Not only that they violate their own guidelines when they contracted the whole lot out to whatever monkeys they paid our cash to: http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/newmedi ... port.shtml

    Oh and while we're at it, if you're using all that at work you should shoot your sodding IT manager and consolidate it into something far more manageable. I spent 2 years getting a company off a crack pipe like that one and onto Linux / Windows saving them several million quid on consultants, big iron kit and restoring the hair of the sysadmins (insurance sector).

    Just out of interest, is top gear entirely funded by the license fees? I see it appearing repeated regularly on Dave (part of UKTV network) about 5 times a day so I'm sure that they're cashing in on their shows anyway.

    Anyway sorry to interrupt - back on topic...
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Back OT - there must have been a motorbike cameraman following Hammond, so we don't know if that was an impedence to progress. I'd be interested to see how long someone like a regular bike courier or fit cyclist would have taken - probably a good 15-20 minutes faster.
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  • chrisjsmith
    chrisjsmith Posts: 280
    Have we actually got a figure for the total journey time by Hammond yet?
  • bryanm
    bryanm Posts: 218
    chrisjsmith wrote:
    I don't expect to run it on everything, just what people use in a desktop environment, which undeniably it's not working on. Vista and MacOS are hardly "waaay out there" like VMS or something are they?

    VMS???? One of the most robust O/S's out there and you're suggesting they shouldn't support it!

    The one observation I made was that at times - and probably more so because he was 'racing' he seemed to be riding 'against' the flow of traffic rather that with it. Back when I used to bike to work I found that sometimes it was better to slow down about and keep with the flow of traffic. His portrayal suggested that to commute across a major city you need to ride like a lunatic dodging in out of traffic to gain a few precious seconds.
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Remember the marathon runner that beat Clarkson thru the rush hour traffic a few years ago ? They did the route of the London Marathon and the car lost out again !

    Oh and Hammond did that Guy Fawkes prog last year - he used a Specialized mtb on that one in London too. He must like the brand.
  • Max_Man
    Max_Man Posts: 185
    Monty Dog wrote:
    Back OT - there must have been a motorbike cameraman following Hammond, so we don't know if that was an impedence to progress.


    Hammond was being followed/filmed by a camera bike, on one or two of the shots you could see the indicator and handlebar.
  • ricadus
    ricadus Posts: 2,379
    What about us poor Mac users! Come on Beeb, sort it out.
    Wait for someone to rip it and YouTube it.

    The Beeb had a falling out with Apple a few years ago when Apple decided that they could demand the beeb pay for having BBC News 24 live streaming via the QuickTime Player instead of for free.
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  • nwallace
    nwallace Posts: 1,465
    chrisjsmith wrote:
    OffTheBackAdam wrote:
    chrisjsmith wrote:
    Hello - some of us are on Vista :(.
    More fool you for succumbing to Window's marketing hype! :wink:

    I'm a software dev. We have to target Vista :(

    Heh, we aren't allowed Vista on the network at work, too big a risk to the NHS network. Even XP usage is limited to those that need it.

    If you have MSDN licensing shove Virtual PC on and use one of your 10 Vista keys for that. Or since your machine is using Vista shove XP on the virtual machine.

    On the basis that a 2000 VM takes aroudn 20 secodns to load up fresh, XP around a minute and Vista 20 mins there is no chance Vista is going on my PC.
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  • ivancarlos
    ivancarlos Posts: 1,034
    This thread has been hijacked by G.U.F.*












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  • chrisjsmith
    chrisjsmith Posts: 280
    Never insult a GUF member ;) Do you know where your files are at 4:15AM? ;)
    nwallace wrote:
    chrisjsmith wrote:
    OffTheBackAdam wrote:
    chrisjsmith wrote:
    Hello - some of us are on Vista :(.
    More fool you for succumbing to Window's marketing hype! :wink:

    I'm a software dev. We have to target Vista :(

    Heh, we aren't allowed Vista on the network at work, too big a risk to the NHS network. Even XP usage is limited to those that need it.

    If you have MSDN licensing shove Virtual PC on and use one of your 10 Vista keys for that. Or since your machine is using Vista shove XP on the virtual machine.

    On the basis that a 2000 VM takes aroudn 20 secodns to load up fresh, XP around a minute and Vista 20 mins there is no chance Vista is going on my PC.

    Vista boots fine on my Core 2 Quadro 2.4GHz machine with 4Gb of RAM :( Takes about 9 seconds.

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