Which Frameset? Trek, Colnago, Cervelo
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Ignore them. Just look at and test ride as many bikes that interest you and get the one YOU want. One reason that there are so many bikes out there is that we are all different also. Find a good bike shop that has demo bikes to loan out. You may have to go to more than one but it is worth it. You are spending a fair amount of money. If you like the Trek then get one. But as I said get the one YOU want. Do not be biased by the negative comments on here.
I have just bought a 5.2 Peformance fit and am very pleased with it.0 -
John.T wrote:Ignore them. Just look at and test ride as many bikes that interest you and get the one YOU want. One reason that there are so many bikes out there is that we are all different also. Find a good bike shop that has demo bikes to loan out. You may have to go to more than one but it is worth it. You are spending a fair amount of money. If you like the Trek then get one. But as I said get the one YOU want. Do not be biased by the negative comments on here.
I have just bought a 5.2 Peformance fit and am very pleased with it.
What he said.0 -
Most of the anti-Trek sentiment is because people like you buy thempjh wrote:I'm thinking of buying a Trek 5.2 Madone .... but I'm a little baffled by what seems to be a lot of 'anti-Trek' comments.
I'm a newbie to cycling and have been riding a (flat-barred road-bike) for the last few months.
(no offence meant - we all have to start somewhere, and it's actually a very good bike)0 -
People like me? You know me then?
Or is it just newbies buying expensive bikes that you don't like?
Funny how often the words 'no offence' often mean precisely the opposite!
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I don't know what aracer means either. You are a newcomer to the sport while I am 65 years old and have been cycling since I was 8 yet we both see Trek as worthy of consideration. He represents the biased and negative aspect of some of the posters on here. Some of his posts are good advice but on others he lets the chip on his shoulder show. Hopefully he will mellow with age.0
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i think all he is trying to say is that some people don't like Treks, as they, more than any other make, represent the 'all the gear, no idea' crowd.
He did say, 'no offence meant'.0 -
Thought those guys rode Italian under the belief that they are of a better pedigreeRacing is life - everything else is just waiting0
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Hmm, the wonders of internet text communications. I've got nothing at all against relative newbies buying expensive bikes - it's a perfectly reasonable bike for you to get - as I tried to clarify in my bit at the end (but obviously failed, sorry!), and I'd certainly be happy to ride one myself too. It's just that the snob value (which matters for some, but not me) is reduced by their widespread availability.
Sorry again for any wrong impression you might have got that I think you shouldn't get one. I don't actually have any anti-Trek sentiment - I was trying to have a pop at those who do
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At the £2.5k mark you are really spoilt for choice. I guess if you are new to cycling then you're bound to think of Trek or Specailised as they make loadsa different bikes and there are loads around. There's nothing wrong with Trek at all but don't go for one purely on the basis that you have heard of them, give some other bikes a go as well... Bianchi, Specialized, Cannondale, Wilier, Pinarello, BMC etc etc there are so many to choose from and now is a good time to get a 2007 model at a discount as well.
For that money you want to be test riding as many different options as possible and then go for the bike that you like the best! Also worth trying different groupsets, see which you prefer: Shimano, Campagnolo or SRAM.
Fianlly make sure you go to a decent bike shop! If you are in London then Sigma are excellent as are Brixton, Condor and Cyclefit (IME).- 2023 Vielo V+1
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Well if it's just a question of 'anti-marketing' I can accept that, although I suspect that their (Trek) products must also speak for themselves or no amount of marketing hype would make any difference in the long term.
I'll have a good look around before deciding what to buy
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just to clarify my position, the name on the bike is way down my list of priorities, absolutely critical and the most important factor is actually using the bike in the first place - what's better, a low value bike, that's used and used and enjoyed to it's fullest or a top end bike that hardly get's used ?, value for money, build quality, longevity etc are what i'd focus on, the name is of little significance personally.0
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I have a look 585,well pleades with it 0
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good for you, i hope it gets used lots and lots 0
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I would have to agree with Phil,I have had several"hangar queens"but get most use out of the cheapest bike I have?????
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What's the point of buying a nice bike and leaving it at home in favour of using an old one :? ?
If the answer is to protect a nice bike from 'salty/wet roads' etc then why would it be classified as a 'hangar queen' when chances are that it might only be out of action for perhaps 3 months out of 12?
Surely anyone spending a lot of money on a bike is gonna want to use it as much as possible ... aren't they?
I must be missing something ...
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To reply to pjh,In my case I travel to work on the train in the moning and then ride the 30+ miles home in the afternoon.I have never been keen on putting a £5500 Parlee on the train in the morning rush hour so that is why I have decided to sell it....otherwise I completely agree with you.
Andy0 -
I say get the one that comes in the color you like. They are all good bikes. Trying to
determine the so called "best" one will never happen. There is no "best" one.
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dennisn wrote:I say get the one that comes in the color you like. They are all good bikes. Trying to
determine the so called "best" one will never happen. There is no "best" one.
dennis noward
you'd base your bike purchase on colour alone would you? What about fit for example ?0 -
wildmoustache wrote:dennisn wrote:I say get the one that comes in the color you like. They are all good bikes. Trying to
determine the so called "best" one will never happen. There is no "best" one.
dennis noward
you'd base your bike purchase on colour alone would you? What about fit for example ?
Yes, of course fit is a good thing. I sort of assumed that he was asking what was the
"best" bike and I don't see a clear winner. They are all outstanding. I also assumed that
he would buy one that fit him. Which shouldn't be a problem with any of them. So I guess
I'm back to color.
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Took my time and have now decided
http://www.bianchi.it/en/products2007/Road_Y7B01.aspx
Can't wait ... should get it in about a week.
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Did someone leave the downtube near a fire?pjh wrote:Took my time and have now decided
http://www.bianchi.it/en/products2007/Road_Y7B01.aspx
Can't wait ... should get it in about a week.
Nice bike, I hope you enjoy riding it.0 -
Interesting thread here chaps, a couple of bits of lore I'd like to pick up on:
What is it about Colnagos that make them an old fellas bike. As an old fella myself, I see this as potentially a recommendation !
And in terms of shortlisting bikes - I ride 4hrs pretty regularly and like to be good to go 6hrs whenever I get the opportunity. So in getting the candidates together I've been trying to look for:
- something that looks like it has about the right size (55-56 top tube)
- a reputation for comfort
- a reputation for not having edgy racing handling. Got to be good for that tricky bit when I'm nearly falling asleep in hour 6.
- a headtube long enough. My current ride has about 21cm from the crown race to the stem.
- I fancy carbon this time
The bike everyone looks at on thpse parameters in a Spesh Roubaix, but I'm also wondering whether a C50, De Rosa King or Idol and something from Look would fit in.
Any other suggestions for the carbon sportive dream machine ?0 -
I've had a Specialized Roubaix for nearly 2 years and absolutely love it, but if I was looking for something to replace it and had a bit of cash to spend I'd probably go for one of these....
http://www.cervelo.com/bikes.aspx?bike=RS2008
based on the bike that's won Paris-Roubaix for the last 2 years, but with the addition of a taller headtube and longer chainstays, it sounds perfect for your needs too.
Let us know how you get on.0 -
bianchi all the way0
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Well, I have a longlist. And quite long it is too. I reckon good solutions, since I've decided:
- I fancy carbon
- don't fancy an integrated seatpost
- probably need an ETT in the 55-56 range
might include (price bracket is based on list for the frameset):
sub 1000:
Ribble Nero Corsa
Condor Baracchi
Argon 18 Helium
mid 1000-2000
Specialized Roubaix S-Works
Time VXS
Cervelo RS
Cyfac Cadence
over 2000
Colnago C50
De Rosa King (old one - the new one has an ISP)
Custom Cyfac Gothica
This is a combination of spiffing mass market bikes, some pro level frames reworked for the leisure market and some pro level frames that by reputation just happen to have riding characteristics that suit the need (i.e. decent front end geom to get a reasonable bar height, reputation as a stable descender, reputation for a smooth ride etc).
Interesting to see how different companies have attacked this market sector - as far as I can tell, with the VXS, Time have just changed the material and not the geometry, whereas with the RS, Cervelo have changed the geom a lot - with longer headtube and chainstays.0 -
Well in the sub grand category I can vouch for Argon 18. Taiwanese yes and designed in Canada but very nice quality for carbon and very well finished.
But OMG in the over 2 grand category it has to be the Cyfac. Wow they are just gorgeous. 2200 buys you a custom Gothica in just any about any flippin' colour you want. Build quality TICK! Exclusivity TICK!
Will be interesting to see what you go for sloboy.0 -
Parlee Z4.....
Andy0 -
sloboy wrote:Well, I have a longlist. And quite long it is too. I reckon good solutions, since I've decided:
- I fancy carbon
- don't fancy an integrated seatpost
- probably need an ETT in the 55-56 range
might include (price bracket is based on list for the frameset):
sub 1000:
Ribble Nero Corsa
Condor Baracchi
Argon 18 Helium
mid 1000-2000
Specialized Roubaix S-Works
Time VXS
Cervelo RS
Cyfac Cadence
over 2000
Colnago C50
De Rosa King (old one - the new one has an ISP)
Custom Cyfac Gothica
This is a combination of spiffing mass market bikes, some pro level frames reworked for the leisure market and some pro level frames that by reputation just happen to have riding characteristics that suit the need (i.e. decent front end geom to get a reasonable bar height, reputation as a stable descender, reputation for a smooth ride etc).
Interesting to see how different companies have attacked this market sector - as far as I can tell, with the VXS, Time have just changed the material and not the geometry, whereas with the RS, Cervelo have changed the geom a lot - with longer headtube and chainstays.
Go for the C50! never ridden one but I'm curious. with a record or chorus group and some light aero wheels you're in business.0
