Campag Record Ultra Torque Loose central Hex Bolt

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  • Chris5150
    Chris5150 Posts: 107
    Well I would just like to chip in here that following this thread has done absolutley nothing to make me appreciate so called pro bike staff.
    As I said my bike was built up at one spposedly bike pro shop who will clearly have had the insstructions and literature that went with the campag record crankset..cost of bike £5k, sorry but I would have thought at that level of cost one should get a pretty good bike built, I consider it totally negligent that the bolt was obviously not torqued/loctited as it should have been.
    Secondly for it to go into a second so called pro bikeshop who then noticed the bolt was loose and tightened accordingly and informed me to and I quote'keep my eye on it'. They obvioulsy were also unaware of the Campag torque proceedure.
    Fantastic, good news then all round...who exactly can you trust in this bike lark???...Not something I want to think about when Im doing 40+ down a bumpy hill, or piling the pressure on componenents going up steep incline.
    I
    One very dissapointed Customer indeed
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Tell Campagnolo in the UK about this, they might take away the "pro" status of the shop if they can't do the job properly.
  • jpembroke
    jpembroke Posts: 2,569
    Remember the days when you could have any bottom bracket you liked as long as it was square and tapered?

    Ah, those were the days. Long live square taper.
    I'm only concerned with looking concerned
  • Chris5150
    Chris5150 Posts: 107
    Well got my campag tool, banged it on my big old torque wrench and tightened that nut upto 50nm.....It will be interesting to see if it stays that way..heres hoping
  • pliptrot
    pliptrot Posts: 582
    As it seems this is a very high maintenance item (refer to the implicit acceptance of the need to regrease bearings after wet rides) those who use it will get plenty of practice torquing that bolt. As the bearings are pressed on the axle (halves) then changing them won't be fun.

    Square taper may not be particularly impressive as a way of keeping cranks on axles, but most of the brackets used were fit-and-forget (for at least a year...). I used a Royce bracket for 4 years without attention.

    If I go for a long wet ride, I really don't want to be fretting about water and grit grinding the bracket bearings during the second half, or be looking forward to a session on the workstand when I get home (instead of a hot bath).

    Call me a luddite if you like, but I'm sticking with something I don't need to overhaul every ride. Or is that just me?
  • aracer
    aracer Posts: 1,649
    pliptrot wrote:
    Or is that just me?
    Luddite. Don't you know we all like shiny new toys on here. In fact what on earth are you doing on this forum? :twisted:
  • pliptrot
    pliptrot Posts: 582
    Hoping to figure out what will stay shiny until I buy the next bit of bling. :wink: I do like maintenance, I really do, and I have a torque wrench and everything. And a grease gun (looks like I'll need it).

    40 years ago car engines needed reboring after about 50,000 miles. You wouldn't buy from a manufacturer today who offered such a vehicle. But we're being fed the equivalent of that on our bicycles? WTF :shock:
  • Chris5150
    Chris5150 Posts: 107
    Ive got to agree with you Pliptrot, I hate maintenance of any kind, I prefer to spend my life doing the riding. I just want a bike I can buy & forget about maint wise, ok once a year I will book it in for a full service at the local bike shop, but thats it. I hate having to think about this that and the other and worry that everything is as tight as it should be.
    I find it quite funny actually that these problems exist at the top end of the gear spectrum, Ive seen so many £100 halfords jobbys that people run around on that are years old & look like they have never seen an oilly rag in their life..and they are still working fine.
  • Titanium
    Titanium Posts: 2,056
    pliptrot wrote:
    Hoping to figure out what will stay shiny until I buy the next bit of bling. :wink: I do like maintenance, I really do, and I have a torque wrench and everything. And a grease gun (looks like I'll need it).

    40 years ago car engines needed reboring after about 50,000 miles. You wouldn't buy from a manufacturer today who offered such a vehicle. But we're being fed the equivalent of that on our bicycles? WTF :shock:
    You want performance though. You wouldn't buy a race car and take it for a spin. Get a hybrid bike but when you go north of £1500, you start to buy exotica which needs TLC. I don't mind the work, it's relaxing in a way and even a clean chain rolls better and I enjoy a perfectly functioning machine...
  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    Titanium wrote:
    You want performance though. You wouldn't buy a race car and take it for a spin. Get a hybrid bike but when you go north of £1500, you start to buy exotica which needs TLC...

    But Ultra Torque is available at Mirage level too....Mirage is not exotica.....except in Halfords.
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • Hi All,

    I have the new campag BB and been running for over year rain and shine on my Van Nicholas. The BB is still as smooth as silk.

    However, when I had another bike built up with the new BB I was quite concerned that they didn't have the right tool to Torq it up.

    I'll see how it goes.

    Tom
  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    Titanium wrote:
    pliptrot wrote:
    Hoping to figure out what will stay shiny until I buy the next bit of bling. :wink: I do like maintenance, I really do, and I have a torque wrench and everything. And a grease gun (looks like I'll need it).

    40 years ago car engines needed reboring after about 50,000 miles. You wouldn't buy from a manufacturer today who offered such a vehicle. But we're being fed the equivalent of that on our bicycles? WTF :shock:
    You want performance though. You wouldn't buy a race car and take it for a spin. Get a hybrid bike but when you go north of £1500, you start to buy exotica which needs TLC. I don't mind the work, it's relaxing in a way and even a clean chain rolls better and I enjoy a perfectly functioning machine...
    Ultra Torque aint gonna make you go faster than you did on your old square taper. It's just a different way of bolting the cranks together, sure they made it lighter and supposidly stiffer but they could have done the same with square taper with a bit of R&D.