What's wrong with Sram?

Big Red S

magliaceleste wrote:

SRAM powerlink chains are only good on MTBs. On road bikes the links are not re-usable - so in fact they are basically regular chains.

What?
Surely a PC99 is a PC99, whatever bike you put it on? And a powerlink is a powerlink, whatever bike you put it on?
What is it that makes them not reusable on a road bike?

ddraver

they make specific roadie ones don't they

but you don't have to use em

Big Red S

Actually, that's a point, the 10-speed chains have a different connecting link.

Monty Dog

The only 'single use' SRAM Powerlinks are the 10 speed ones - I've been re-using 8 and 9 speed ones for years- kinda pointless otherwise. Anyway, the Connex and KMC designs are easier to disengage and are re-useable, including 10 speed.

magliaceleste

Yes - thought we were talking about road bikes fitted with the new SRAM groupsets...therefore the single use 10 speed ones.

grazer

My Look 585 came with Sram Force on it

I think it's great. Certainly lighter than DA and has the looks of Record. Also the front wiring is hidden which is nice. Shifting is excellent and braking is fine (someone said they heard otherwise)

Not sure i would have paid 1k for the set mind yoU.......

leguape

Monty Dog wrote:

Unless you buy a whole groupset from Europe, the Rival groupset is more expensive than Record. Who would buy a pair of replacement levers for more than £300 when you can buy Record carbons for £175? The brakes apparently don't have anything like the same feel/modulation - as for the chainset - the same ones that were being flogged as Truvativ for £100 are now as expensive as the Record ones?

Are you confusing your groupsets there? Record is 900 notes plus, similar price point as Force. Chorus is 600 notes, similar price point to Rival (which I got in the UK at the beginning of the year as complete groupset from GB cycles for 525).

Almost every review I've read of the SRAM groupsets puts the breaking as clean, confident and effective, even in the wet. For reference the Rival shifters are about 10g lighter than their carbon Chorus equivalent and a gram or two lighter than the similarly priced Record shifters. When did Carbon come to mean better?

Barney 2

Wilier and the new Trek Madone have a SRAM model

acorn_user

Sram is everywhere on US bikes. I see a lot in shops, but they have not filtered through the whole way yet, so I don't see all that many on the streets. Then again, there is only one Campag bike in the 4 shops in town, and it's a 2005 sale model Fuji.... If I remember correctly, my team mate won the US national collegiate championships with Sram.

aracer

leguape wrote:

Monty Dog wrote:

Unless you buy a whole groupset from Europe, the Rival groupset is more expensive than Record. Who would buy a pair of replacement levers for more than £300 when you can buy Record carbons for £175? The brakes apparently don't have anything like the same feel/modulation - as for the chainset - the same ones that were being flogged as Truvativ for £100 are now as expensive as the Record ones?

Are you confusing your groupsets there? Record is 900 notes plus, similar price point as Force. Chorus is 600 notes, similar price point to Rival (which I got in the UK at the beginning of the year as complete groupset from GB cycles for 525).

To be fair, whilst you're right about groupset prices, the SRAM shifters are more expensive - even Rival cost more than Record.