I smashed car's windshield
cntl
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A few hundred yards from work, I needed to turn right. So I wait for the car behind me to pass, look around and see another car further down. Indicating, I start positioning myself neared to the centre of the road, but before I had a chance to do that, the car overtakes me, forcing me to go back to the left. I don't know what heppened to me, but I got pissed off, chased him to the roundabout and just to give him a lesson, I banged hard with the side of my fist on his front windshield. To my utter shock, it smashed, completely. Now I will have to pay. The guy got a quote from the autoglass, 365 quid. No police involved, just gave him my address. Shit happens. It was accidental, obviously, I didn't want to smash it, I just lost it...Well, I deserve it probably.
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Oops, sympathies. Can't say I blame you, sometimes it's very hard to stop the red mist descending. Good lesson I guess.0
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Good of you to hang around and take it on the chin. I'm sure a lot of cyclists would have legged it to avoid having to pay to replace the windscreen. You shouldn't have lost it, but we've all done things we shouldn't have in the heat of the moment, it says a lot for you that you're taking responsibility for your actions!0
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This reminds me of my mate Evil Alan and his taxi crash. Doing a speed run on skates down Pentonville, and running the lights at the bottom, there wasn't as much room as he thought, and left an Alan-sized dent in the cab door. Boy was the cabbie shocked, and even more when he stuck around to exchange details and pay up.0
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Get the driver to double check his insurance details - a lot of insurance deals come with cover for windshields which won't cost him his no-claims, just an excess, which you can pay. Certainly when I had my car broken into earlier this year, I only paid a £50 excess for the 2 front windows, and it didn't affect my no-claims.
Worth asking, anyway
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Feel sorry for you, cntl. Surely the guys insurance covers him for windscreen damage...he (you) just pay the excess. Could be £100-150ish. Why £365?
Maybe the driver was p!ssed off and wants you to pay the full whack.0 -
as others have said, just get him to check the insurance. pay the excess. it shouldn't cause a problem with his no claims.
fine, the guy is entitled to a new windscreen but he's not entitled to take the piss!Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive.0 -
mazcp wrote:Feel sorry for you, cntl. Surely the guys insurance covers him for windscreen damage...he (you) just pay the excess. Could be £100-150ish. Why £365?
Maybe the driver was p!ssed off and wants you to pay the full whack.
more the case that he'll ask for the full price but get it off his insurance for £60. either way, get recepits for what you pay for. don't let this tosser fleece you.Only the meek get pinched. The bold survive.0 -
I say threaten him with violence - he's already seen you punch a windscreen out, he'll be terrified! :shock:
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Christ man don't pay! What is wrong with you? He sounds like he got what he deserved.0
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cntl wrote:A few hundred yards from work, I needed to turn right. So I wait for the car behind me to pass, look around and see another car further down. Indicating, I start positioning myself neared to the centre of the road, but before I had a chance to do that, the car overtakes me, forcing me to go back to the left. I don't know what heppened to me, but I got pissed off, chased him to the roundabout and just to give him a lesson, I banged hard with the side of my fist on his front windshield. To my utter shock, it smashed, completely. Now I will have to pay. The guy got a quote from the autoglass, 365 quid. No police involved, just gave him my address. shoot happens. It was accidental, obviously, I didn't want to smash it, I just lost it...Well, I deserve it probably.*´¨)
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That's one to watch out for! I had occasion to bang on a car's passenger window this morning as he tried to change from the right to left lane through me (I was in primary position in the left lane). Thought I'd wake him up - would never have expected to break the glass!0
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Bugger elephants - capabari are cuter!0 -
Starting to suspect a tie in between this post and the huge furore over the Cornhill Insurance press release about cycle insurance. Has a general air of trollism.0
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I'd say hangshead is right.
These fuckers will kill you and say "I didn't mean it".
I took a fucking wing mirror off a couple of weeks ago. The fucker swerved into me a couple of miles from work, and I just found his car in a carpark in the industrial estate and toko the mirror off.
These fuckers think killing someone is nothing. You should have just said "It'll be your face next" and ridden off.0 -
Car Killer, hangshead, etc. Really, that's terrible attitude. No wonder cyclists are so hated by car drivers. You make your own karma, but unfortunately some of yours seems to rub off on the rest of us once in a while.0
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I hope that you are just playing a role with that sanctimonious bollocks. I am a respectable and careful road user and I'm pretty shocked that the OP smashed the window. At the same time I say don't pay. It was an accident. Let them take the money. If he had hit you he would not pay. If he lost his rag and hit you he would have killed you.
I don't even think you live in the real world BentMikey. I think you live in a bubble.0 -
Two wrongs don't make a right. His wrong didn't end in consequences, but the OP's did, which is why he's rightly paying for it. It certainly wasn't an accident, although there are mitigating circumstances.0
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hangsheadinshame wrote:At the same time I say don't pay. It was an accident. Let them take the money. If he had hit you he would not pay.
Actually, if there is damage to your vehicle (bike) or yourself, then he should pay. If he doesn't, then it becomes a legal matter, just as with a collision between 2 cars.
If we expect cars to treat us as other vehicles, then we should expect to behave in that way when accidents like this happen.0 -
It was an accident. He didn't mean to break the windscreen.0
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hangsheadinshame wrote:It was an accident. He didn't mean to break the windscreen.
Whether or not it was an accident makes not one jot of difference. The question is over fault.
If a kid kicked a football into your window, and it broke, you would want him to pay for the damage, regardless of if he meant it or not. (Admittedly, he'd probably do a runner, but that's another debate)
Likewise, an insurance company does not look to apportion intent, it looks to apportion blame/fault.0 -
If you expect cars to treat you like a vehicle you are in for a rude surprise.0
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Don't talk to me as though you were explaining clouds to a 4 year old. Your missing the point. You're confusing morality with legality and both with reality. It makes no sense to live like that and the OP will only have a short lived and deluded sense of warm fuzziness to fall back on when he realises that he has been a muppet.misterben wrote:hangsheadinshame wrote:It was an accident. He didn't mean to break the windscreen.
Whether or not it was an accident makes not one jot of difference. The question is over fault.
If a kid kicked a football into your window, and it broke, you would want him to pay for the damage, regardless of if he meant it or not. (Admittedly, he'd probably do a runner, but that's another debate)
Likewise, an insurance company does not look to apportion intent, it looks to apportion blame/fault.0 -
hangsheadinshame wrote:Your missing the point. You're confusing morality with legality and both with reality.
Morally he should pay for the damage.
Legally he should pay for the damage.
In reality, I think he should pay for the damage.It makes no sense to live like that and the OP will only have a short lived and deluded sense of warm fuzziness to fall back on when he realises that he has been a muppet.
If nobody plays by the rules, then the game doesn't work.0 -
Could be right. I re-read the OP's wording and it comes across (to me, at least) as very oh-well-better-cough-up-and-pay, it's too matter-of-fact and lacking emotion, and who calls them 'windshields' round here? Only the yanks as far as I know.hangsheadinshame wrote:Starting to suspect a tie in between this post and the huge furore over the Cornhill Insurance press release about cycle insurance. Has a general air of trollism.0 -
In reality I don't think the event even occurred and if it did the OP is really a bit naive. God bless him. But you are right that he is probably a good stick, wot!misterben wrote:hangsheadinshame wrote:Your missing the point. You're confusing morality with legality and both with reality.
Morally he should pay for the damage.
Legally he should pay for the damage.
In reality, I think he should pay for the damage.misterben wrote:It makes no sense to live like that and the OP will only have a short lived and deluded sense of warm fuzziness to fall back on when he realises that he has been a muppet.
If nobody plays by the rules, then the game doesn't work.
Yes yes yes. My mummy and daddy told me that too. I guess everything is working just fine for you and yours then? Goody.0 -
seriously get him to get it fixed on his insurance and you pay the excess (and then maybe buy him thankyou for not screwing you present - a bottle of wine and a copy of the highway code??:)). personally if i wasn't so close to work I'd have looked a little shocked at what I'd don and then rode off.0
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Cart before horse Mikey.
I try never to do anyone any harm.
THEY try to kill me every day. I don't take shit now. I'm on a hair trigger.0 -
I am going to pay him this evening. That's the right thing to do. Irrespective of the way he drove, he seemed like a nice fellow and was visibly shaken--I actually felt sorry for him. I shouldn't have hit it, especially with full force (a lesson learned here). I am still amazed how eaily this thing went into pieces....0
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I gave myself a blood blister the other day on my knuckle, and I thought I might have broken my hand after belting some tw-at's side window so hard that it flexed abuot 2 inches inwards.
I do NOT start these things. I ride minding my own business.
That is ALL I do.g0
