Earl's neice becomes deputy Labour leader

redcogs · June 2007

This morning i filled the pan with excrement, and then flushed it away.

Two single acts, both of which have as much significance for the world as the election of yet another utterly corrupt and contemptible bourgeois politician seeking office and power.

Where's the shock Patrick? The Labour Party contains toffs , semi toffs, and acts completely in the interests of the toffs and semi toffs.

Ever was it thus.

Dinay wurry. The citadels are not about to crumble and you can continue making an overly healthy living from property shuffling for the building societies and banks.

please look up to the stars.. ***

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

1. This morning i filled the pan with excrement, and then flushed it away.

2. The Labour Party contains toffs , semi toffs, and acts completely in the interests of the toffs and semi toffs.

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2. The Labour Party is packed with the hypocritical liberal elite at its highest levels and does, indeed, take care of its own. However, they take delight is taxing @rse off the middle-classes to fund ineffective, wasteful spending and keep the tax-rates down for private equity asset-strippers.

Unknown · June 2007

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and does, indeed, take care of its own. However, they take delight is taxing @rse of the middle-classes to fund ineffective, wasteful spending and keep the tax-rates down for private equity asset-strippers.
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Steady on spire - please bear in mind that Gordon Brown's right hand man, Sir Ronald Cohen, made his fortune out of private equity. Why should top earners be expected to pay the same rates of tax as school teachers?

spire · June 2007

And, Patrick, another of Brown's closest advisors, Sue Nye, is married to multi-millionaire Gavyn Davies of Goldman Sachs.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire

And, Patrick, another of Brown's closest advisors, Sue Nye, is married to multi-millionaire Gavyn Davies of Goldman Sachs.
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The rich are always with us. [;)]

redcogs · June 2007

spire, dont fret, your social interests are safe with Gordon. Both you and Patrick can continue to economically exploit your employees with impunity, remaining wealthy at their expense.

please look up to the stars.. ***

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

spire, dont fret, your social interests are safe with Gordon. Both you and Patrick can continue to economically exploit your employees with impunity, remaining wealthy at their expense.

please look up to the stars.. ***
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Would you rather they didn't have jobs?

Unknown · June 2007

Would it be appropriate at this time to mention that it doesn't make any difference who you vote for, the bloody government still gets in.

I've been Thamed !!

redcogs · June 2007

i see, your economic exploitation of other people's labour, which keeps them relatively poor, whilst you prosper, is doing them a favour?

Seems a bit irrational and i can't see me agreeing with it.

please look up to the stars.. ***

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

spire, dont fret, your social interests are safe with Gordon. Both you and Patrick can continue to economically exploit your employees with impunity, remaining wealthy at their expense.

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If any of them feel dissatisfied, then they are free to work elsewhere or to set up their own businesses.

<cue for an impassioned post from redders about the yoke of serfdom.[;)]>

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

i see, your economic exploitation of other people's labour, which keeps them relatively poor, whilst you prosper, is doing them a favour?

Seems a bit irrational and i can't see me agreeing with it.

please look up to the stars.. ***
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What is the point of setting up a business if you don't prosper?

papercorn2000 · June 2007

To be fair here, Marx's definition of "exploitation" was hardly lifted from the OED was it!

Under his definition, any surplus left over after renumerating the workers was "exploitation" wasn't it!

Still, come the revolution...[:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

To be fair here, Marx's definition of "exploitation" was hardly lifted from the OED was it!

Under his definition, any surplus left over after renumerating the workers was "exploitation" wasn't it!

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After paying ourselves, we're trying to build up a modest surplus to have the office repaired and redecorated. I must remember to label this the "exploitation" account.

spire · June 2007

Yes, we also exploit our staff, forcing them to go to Christmas parties and summer balls, and making them accept an annual bonus - all paid for out of evil profits.

papercorn2000 · June 2007

There's a wall with your name on it, mark my words![:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Joe Sacco · June 2007

The problem is socialists can't run businesses, or not in a capitalist world. Running a business to break even by sharing all profits with employees) is heading for failure as the competition uses it's profits to get the competitive edge by investing in business, keep any shares up etc,.

Take this away and the business has a higher chance of failure, meaning all the employees are out of work. Spread this approach across all businesses and lots of people are out of work.

What would you prefer redcogs?

redcogs · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

There's a wall with your name on it, mark my words![:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/
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i'm not in favour of giving the class enemy a wall to lean against whilst justice is being seen to be done.

Anyway, i've always favoured supporting the middle classes - as a rope supports a hanging man.

please look up to the stars.. ***

Unknown · June 2007

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i'm not in favour of giving the class enemy a wall to lean against whilst justice is being seen to be done.

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Redders, the purpose of the wall is to protect the proletarian masses behind the person from being shot. [;)]

<What is the world coming to when the lefties can't even organise an execution properly>

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Patrick Stevens

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

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i'm not in favour of giving the class enemy a wall to lean against whilst justice is being seen to be done.

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Redders, the purpose of the wall is to protect the proletarian masses behind the person from being shot. [;)]

<What is the world coming to when the lefties can't even organise an execution properly>
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Lefty leaders have always been prepared to sacrifice a pile of proles if they can bag one capitalist.

papercorn2000 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Patrick Stevens

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

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i'm not in favour of giving the class enemy a wall to lean against whilst justice is being seen to be done.

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Redders, the purpose of the wall is to protect the proletarian masses behind the person from being shot. [;)]

<What is the world coming to when the lefties can't even organise an execution properly>
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Just have to keep at it until we get it right![:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

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Just have to keep at it until we get it right![:D]

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We've heard that from the socialists often enough.

"Now lads, redders is going to shoot me with that rather nice anti tank gun that a capitalist sold him. I'd like a hundred or so of his fellow socialists to line up behind me........."

papercorn2000 · June 2007

You are right. We'll have to go back to first principles and start with simple Common or Garden bludgeoning. Surely the simplest comrade can eventually get that right.[:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

You are right. We'll have to go back to first principles and start with simple Common or Garden bludgeoning. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

As currently practised in Coatbridge? [;)]

papercorn2000 · June 2007

Precisely! Using weapons imported from the Buckfast Monastery in England. So, I'm sure that I can twist it so that most violent crime in Lanarkshire is the fault of the English![:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by papercorn2000

Precisely! Using weapons imported from the Buckfast Monastery in England. So, I'm sure that I can twist it so that most violent crime in Lanarkshire is the fault of the English![:D]

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And no doubt directly attributable to something that happened four hundred years ago. [:)]

papercorn2000 · June 2007

Yep, everything wrong in the world is directly attributable to the misdemeanours of the English.

Or the French.[:D]

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Giant Rider · June 2007

My tuppence worth to this thread.

'In this society we have socialism for the rich and free enterprise for the poor' Dr King

As for the irony of an aristocratic family member being deputy leader of the Labour. What is the irony, when you consider Karl Marx and Frederich Engels were from solidly middle class backgrounds.'Their views on the 'workers' were no doubt bankrupt if not patronising. Engels father owned a large profitable factory in the north, and the large living allowance given to his son, allowed him and Marx to engage in their pastime of discussing society and arguing that: 'the point is to change it'

Earl's neice becomes deputy Labour leader

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