Embankment - cycling tickets!

RufusA · June 2007

Walking from Temple to Embankment tube stations and back (to visit Action Bikes), and in that brief journey noticed two cyclists being issued with tickets by officers from the Met.

They weren't near traffic lights or one-way systems, but I didn't witness them being stopped so it's possible they didn't dismount whilst on the pavement!

Good to see our local constabulary enthusiastically supporting cycle to work week!

Rufus

Hackbike 6 · June 2007

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cupofteacp · June 2007

Well the police have go to do something

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Not bad but they should be nicking RLJ's.

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domtyler · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6
Not bad but they should be nicking RLJ's.
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Sounds like it's made your day that the police are finally cracking down on cyclists Hackers.

Personally I would like to see them cracking down on criminals and people who threaten our lives and safety like dangerous/illegal drivers of motor vehicles. I'm sure that would involve them having to actually do some work though so I shan't hold my breath.

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graham_g · June 2007

Dom, whilst I agree - the police do serve the 'interests' of the public and unfortunately they seem a bit too interested in dodgy cyclists at the moment. Don't forget, 'the public' are all too often incapable of seeing the bigger picture.

Hackbike 6 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

Not bad but they should be nicking RLJ's.
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Sounds like it's made your day that the police are finally cracking down on cyclists Hackers.

Personally I would like to see them cracking down on criminals and people who threaten our lives and safety like dangerous/illegal drivers of motor vehicles. I'm sure that would involve them having to actually do some work though so I shan't hold my breath.

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I just wanted to reel you in.[;)]

While they are at it perhaps they should clamp down on idiot peds.

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Tynancp · June 2007

I'm happy for the cops to do cyclists for being a nuisance on the pavements and riding in the dark without lights or any vis, that one really does irritate me, jumping lights at junctions too

Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Fair enough!

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BentMikey · June 2007

It's fine to be catching the cyclists, nothing wrong with that. I do wish they'd spend a bit more effort on the lawbreaking drivers though.

Dom you seem to be getting a tad militant lately, surely this can't be good for your zen?

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Getting worried mikey?[;)]

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halfords wizzkid · June 2007

i think that they should just concentrate on catching burglars, rapists, terrorists you name it but FFS leave the motorists and cyclists alone!!!

one thing to say to police is 'GET A F*UCKING LIFE YOU T*ATS!!'

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el_presidente · June 2007

yes indeed if you like getting arrested

halfords wizzkid · June 2007

Time to unleash the PC brigade me thinks!

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Tynancp · June 2007

I've seen plenty of cars and motorbikes pulled lately

I think the coppers should pursue all anti social lawbreaking

I think they do as well, no probs with the cops here

domtyler · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BentMikey

Dom you seem to be getting a tad militant lately, surely this can't be good for your zen?

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I know it's great innit! Strange how it just creeps up like that. It's great fun winding old Hackers up too, I thought he was going to blow a gasket or something earlier!! [:D][:D][:D]

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Jacomus-rides-Gen · June 2007

All laws are there to be upheld, not just some of them, some of the time. The Police have a tough job trying to do it all at once, and a bl**dy good job they do too. In my opinion letting small breaches of the law go unchecked and exclusively going for the major crimes breeds an undercurrent of misdemeanor that leads to more major crime in the long term.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">By HWK
one thing to say to police is 'GET A F*UCKING LIFE YOU T*ATS!!'
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That is one thing to say HWK, but when you or your mate gets attaked by some drunken louts, I very much doubt you would say that as we come running.

Or how about someone attacks your missus? What would you say then?

Would you say it as I stand with a dog team in the station, potentially putting our personal safety at risk, trying to catch drug dealers coming off the trains and distributing their products around the town?

What if your gf had gone out drinking in town and her drink had been spiked. She is lying in some bushes on a freezing cold night in a skirt and small top, virtually unconcious? We found a girl just like that, we were patrolling down a street, moving towards a bar that was soon to close for the night, when my colleague spotted the sparkle of her belt. Her parents didn't seem to think that we should be out getting "a f**king life".

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cougie · June 2007

Well said Jacomus.

If people break the law then they should get ticketed/fined whatever. Be it on cycle, car, camel whatever.

Some of us here are starting to sound like SSers...

dondare · June 2007

With one exception.

Pedal reflectors....

It's not a bad law, as such, it's just that very few clipless pedals can be fitted with the things.

(I am still squeaky clean, since my bike is old enough to be exempt.)

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Jacomus-rides-Gen · June 2007

haha, very right dondare!

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BentMikey

Dom you seem to be getting a tad militant lately, surely this can't be good for your zen?

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I know it's great innit! Strange how it just creeps up like that. It's great fun winding old Hackers up too, I thought he was going to blow a gasket or something earlier!! [:D][:D][:D]

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You wished.[:P]

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halfords wizzkid · June 2007

jacomes_rides_gen I can assure you if someone attacked my missus I wouldn't hand them to the police!!

And I don't like them either, the amount of times I've needed their assistance, they have been nothing but wan*ers and very unhelpful ie the time when I was mugged outside West Byfleet Train Station 2 years ago, I had got hold of the guy who had attacked me, and I pressed charges against him, but guess what they let him go with a caution the next day!!! talk about ****ing useless!!!
Thats really doing your job properly ain't it letting criminals go with a slap on the wrist!

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Mister Paul · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by domtyler

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

Not bad but they should be nicking RLJ's.
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Sounds like it's made your day that the police are finally cracking down on cyclists Hackers.

Personally I would like to see them cracking down on criminals and people who threaten our lives and safety like dangerous/illegal drivers of motor vehicles. I'm sure that would involve them having to actually do some work though so I shan't hold my breath.

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They do. They have the uncanny ability to not just focus on one crime. Great, isn't it?

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Cunobelin · June 2007

HWK - I am sorry, but I have to correct you here:
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">think that they should just concentrate on catching burglars, rapists, terrorists you name it but FFS leave the motorists and cyclists alone!!!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Shurely this should have read:

think that they should just concentrate on <s>catching</s> persecuting otherwise law abiding burglars, rapists, terrorists you name it but FFS leave the motorists and cyclists alone!!!

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b@kes · June 2007

I don't see how date-rape drugs compare to cycling on pavements, that's a pointless comment really

issueing tickets to cyclist 'offenders' is a little rich though, you're effectively paying for them to be on duty

The Endorser · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Hackbike 6

Not bad but they should be nicking RLJ's.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">And when they do, the RLJ's will moan that thy should be off hassling someone else. They can't win.

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The Endorser · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tynan

and riding in the dark without lights or any vis,<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">my favourite pastime is to sneak up behind them and give them full blast of the wailers - those that survive the resulting heart attack, or falling off in shock, get a severe rollocking.

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Hackbike 6 · June 2007

Fantastic Mr Endorser.Now bang domestostyler to rights.[:P]

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dubnobass · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by The Endorser
my favourite pastime is to sneak up behind them and give them full blast of the wailers - those that survive the resulting heart attack, or falling off in shock, get a severe rollocking.
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Jacomus-rides-Gen · June 2007

HWK - I am sorry your incident was not dealt with in a way that you felt satisfactory, you should have recieved an explanation to the outcome at the time. Do you remember it at all?

Why would you not report an attack? I assume when you say this you mean that you would rather try and remediate the situation on your own.

Based on that assumption, what would you do?

Have you considered the wider implications of your actions, such as the reaction to your retaliation? The friends of the attacker will support him, no matter what he did to make you assault him or damage his property.

Lets say, simply as an example I'm not implying that you would actually do this!

, that you assault the guy who attacked your better half. It results in a broken nose and couple of broken ribs for him, you were lucky, you surprised him and beat him down virtually without any resistence. You walk away satisfied justice has been served.

2 weeks later, while he is still hurting, you bump into each other on a night out. He recognises you and he and his friends give you a harsh retribution beating. Much worse than the one you gave him.

Once you feel a bit better, you are pretty angry about this, and get together a bunch of mates. You go out and find this guy and his mates, though you don't wan't a repeat performance of the last incident, so you perhaps arm yourselves with homemade blunt force weapons.

Repeat and escalate.

Repeat and escalate.

Repeat and escalate.

Headline: "Another gang killing takes life of young father"

Does this seem like a fairly realistic (if a little exaggerated) progression you could see happening?

One of the phrases I hear the most is "He/she started it first, mate/bruv/officer. I didn't do anything."

EDIT: D'oh! Wrote the same sentence twice - obviously not enough coffee this morning!
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Ashtrayhead · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by halfords wizzkid

i think that they should just concentrate on catching burglars, rapists, terrorists you name it but FFS leave the motorists and cyclists alone!!!

one thing to say to police is 'GET A F*UCKING LIFE YOU T*ATS!!'

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Are there a lot of them on the Embankment?

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