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Bendy Buses - dangerous, say tfl

jamesACjamesAC Posts: 117
edited June 2007 in Campaign
According to tfl, cyclists are three times more likely to be injured by a bendy bus.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6729963.stm

Than what? Acorns in the sky? Sharks? Elephants?



Why did Noddy pay the ransom? - Because the elephants have got big ears!

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Why did Noddy pay the ransom? - Because the elephants have got big ears!

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  • CretinCretin Posts: 266
    'than any other bus' - as it says in the very first line of the article.
  • FnaarFnaar Posts: 1,985
    I think it would be greatr if bendy buses made a concertina-like noise as they went round corners. [:o)][:)]

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  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnaar</i>

    I think it would be greatr if bendy buses made a concertina-like noise as they went round corners. [:o)][:)]
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    I think they should replace the concertina bit with big "Slinky" springs!
  • FnaarFnaar Posts: 1,985
    Coming down Highgate Hill would be fun!

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  • jamesACjamesAC Posts: 117
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cretin</i>

    'than any other bus' - as it says in the very first line of the article.
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    -- Stricktly speaking, it doesn't.

    But I do like that idea that the approach of these vehi--cles should be preceded by concertina music or slinky spring sounds ..



    Why did Noddy pay the ransom? - Because the elephants have got big ears!

    jamesAC
    Why did Noddy pay the ransom? - Because the elephants have got big ears!

    jamesAC
  • ArchcpArchcp Posts: 8,987
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnaar</i>

    I think it would be greatr if bendy buses made a concertina-like noise as they went round corners. [:o)][:)]

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    Thank goodness I'd swallowed my mouthful of tea before I read that!
    [:D][:D][:D]

    That's the best idea I've ever heard. I shall be giggling over that all evening...

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  • CretinCretin Posts: 266
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Peyote</i>

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnaar</i>

    I think it would be greatr if bendy buses made a concertina-like noise as they went round corners. [:o)][:)]
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    I think they should replace the concertina bit with big "Slinky" springs!
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    [8D]
  • mjonesmjones Posts: 1,915
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cretin</i>

    'than any other bus' - as it says in the very first line of the article.
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    With all the usual problems we get with almost every 'risk' story: apparently the accident rate hasn't been normalised for exposure. Bendy buses are used on the busiest routes, so would be expected to encounter more pedestrians and cyclists.
  • Gavin GilbertGavin Gilbert Posts: 4,019
    TfL reputedly sent its drivers on a 'Cyclist Awareness Course' after the awful death of Vicki McCreery in May 2004. As a result there was a noticeable drop in poor driving. However the lessons have either worn off or the churn of staff has replaced those who attended as bus driving standards are dropping again.

    I was nearly taken out on Tuesday evening by a 207 Bendy whilst riding back from the Hillingdon circuit. It past so close I was unable to pedal for hitting the top of the kerb with the down stroke. Had I been a less experienced cyclist I would have probably been off...

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  • bigjimbigjim Posts: 780
    So what happened to double deckers? Bendys take up twice the space. the back end sticks out blocking the road and causes even more jams. Twice the length to try and cycle past. Dooohh...

    Jim[:(!]

    Nothing to prove.
  • mjonesmjones Posts: 1,915
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bigjim</i>

    So what happened to double deckers? Bendys take up twice the space. the back end sticks out blocking the road and causes even more jams. Twice the length to try and cycle past. Dooohh...
    ...
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    The main advantages of bendy buses are vastly improved accessibility and boarding times compared with double deckers. There are grounds for concerns about cyclists, and they aren't suitable for all roads because of turning radii etc, but on appropriate routes they can help to provide considerably better public transport.
  • Simon L2Simon L2 Posts: 2,908
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gavin Gilbert</i>

    TfL reputedly sent its drivers on a 'Cyclist Awareness Course' after the awful death of Vicki McCreery in May 2004.
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    the courses had been running for a while, and continue. I'm told the LCC provided the course material.

    I'm still impressed by bendy bus drivers. I used to catch one that turned left into Portland Place, and on two occasions saw undertaking cyclists hurtle through and surviving only because the bendybus driver had the wit to check his mirrors and to stop in a hurry.
  • ArchcpArchcp Posts: 8,987
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnaar</i>

    I think it would be greatr if bendy buses made a concertina-like noise as they went round corners. [:o)][:)]

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    Oh my. I've just had an idea for a little movie... [;)]

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  • FnaarFnaar Posts: 1,985
    I look forward to the results, Arch! [:)]
    Any trams where you are? They's go nicely with a "swanee whistle". [:D]
    http://www.compositiontoday.com/sound_b ... histle.asp

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  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnaar</i>

    Coming down Highgate Hill would be fun!

    <b><font color="blue"><font face="Comic Sans MS">kinckers kanckers konckers</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="blue"></b> [:D]
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    There aren't any bendy bus routes that go up or down Highgate Hill.
  • FnaarFnaar Posts: 1,985
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by skut</i>
    There aren't any bendy bus routes that go up or down Highgate Hill.
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    No, with a slinky. Front part slams onto ground, back part slinkies over the top, like a slinky coming down the stairs. Pay attention, these things are important.[:)]
    Apols to jamesAC...this thread went all bendy! [:D]

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  • ArchcpArchcp Posts: 8,987
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnaar</i>

    I look forward to the results, Arch! [:)]
    Any trams where you are? They's go nicely with a "swanee whistle". [:D]
    http://www.compositiontoday.com/sound_b ... histle.asp

    <b><font color="blue"><font face="Comic Sans MS">kinckers kanckers konckers</font id="Comic Sans MS"></font id="blue"></b> [:D]
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    I'll have to see what I can do.[:)] Finding a concertina sound effect might be tricky.. Would snatches of accordian do?

    BTW, I relayed your concertina sound idea to a table of 5 people over lunch, and got a 100% total hilarity result...[:D][:D][:D]

    No trams, here no. Which is a shame, because I have a swannee whistle at home...

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  • FnaarFnaar Posts: 1,985
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Arch</i>
    I'll have to see what I can do.[:)] Finding a concertina sound effect might be tricky.. Would snatches of accordian do?

    BTW, I relayed your concertina sound idea to a table of 5 people over lunch, and got a 100% total hilarity result...[:D][:D][:D]

    No trams, here no. Which is a shame, because I have a swannee whistle at home...
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    I have to come clean about the origin of the idea, and all credit to Danny Baker a couple of years ago on his BBC Radio London show....

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  • CretinCretin Posts: 266
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