Rhyll CC inquest

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  • Jaded
    Jaded Posts: 6,663
    Thanks, davidman, that's what I was remembering/referring to.

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  • Yorkshireman
    Yorkshireman Posts: 999
    More news today:-
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6756579.stm



    Colin N.


    Lincolnshire is mostly flat... but the wind is mostly in your face!
    Colin N.


    Lincolnshire is mostly flat... but the wind is mostly in your face!
  • mjones
    mjones Posts: 1,915
    And now the verdict:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6246140.stm

    Pretty damning I'm afraid:

    ...

    The jury ruled out accidental death and returned a narrative verdict.

    Marking the end of an emotional and dramatic three-week hearing at Abergele, north-east Wales coroner John Hughes said: "The evidence shows classic signs that Robert Harris was driving without due care and attention and to his credit he admitted his responsibility in going too fast.

    "I fail to understand why no proceedings were brought against him."

    On a failure to grit roads after calls had been made alerting officials of ice, Mr Hughes said the North Wales Police control room "needs a rethink from top to bottom in their transmission of information and briefings".

    "I sat here biting my tongue during the inquest of this most unprofessional state of affairs and I will be writing to the chief constable recommending a fundamental examination of the way they receive and disseminate information and a general re-training of those involved."
  • Cretin
    Cretin Posts: 266
    A very sad affair for all concerned.
  • rothbook
    rothbook Posts: 943
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> "I sat here biting my tongue during the inquest of this most unprofessional state of affairs and I will be writing to the chief constable recommending a fundamental examination of the way they receive and disseminate information and a general re-training of those involved." <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

    The Chief Inspector's days may well be numbered, the crass mistakes and incompetence of the police are reflected in Hughe's comments. A much better result than I expected given jow much the cops cocked the whole thing up.
  • rothbook
    rothbook Posts: 943
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6246492.stm

    Cycle death families 'let down'


    The families of four cyclists mown down by an out-of-control car say
    they feel badly let down that the driver had not faced more serious
    criminal charges.


    The coroner has also said he failed to understand why Mr Harris had not
    been prosecuted for careless driving.


    The families' barrister, William Hoskins, said: "Following 18 months of
    unanswered questions and delays, which have added to the immense grief,
    and suffering caused by the tragic deaths of Dave, Maurice, Thomas and
    Wayne, the families are relieved that the coroner and jury have
    conducted a thorough investigation into this tragic event.


    "Our lawyers on our behalf, made clear to the chief crown prosecutor,
    our disbelief at the decision not to prosecute Mr Harris for driving
    offences.


    "We remain unhappy with that decision in the light of the evidence heard
    by the coroner.


    "In fact we feel badly let down by this decision and that justice has
    not been served."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6247184.stm

    CPS to react to cycle deaths call


    The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is expected to give its reaction
    later to criticisms made at an inquest into the deaths of four cyclists.
  • <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rothbook</i>

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6246492.stm

    Cycle death families 'let down'


    The families of four cyclists mown down by an out-of-control car say
    they feel badly let down that the driver had not faced more serious
    criminal charges.


    The coroner has also said he failed to understand why Mr Harris had not
    been prosecuted for careless driving.


    The families' barrister, William Hoskins, said: "Following 18 months of
    unanswered questions and delays, which have added to the immense grief,
    and suffering caused by the tragic deaths of Dave, Maurice, Thomas and
    Wayne, the families are relieved that the coroner and jury have
    conducted a thorough investigation into this tragic event.


    "Our lawyers on our behalf, made clear to the chief crown prosecutor,
    our disbelief at the decision not to prosecute Mr Harris for driving
    offences.


    "We remain unhappy with that decision in the light of the evidence heard
    by the coroner.


    "In fact we feel badly let down by this decision and that justice has
    not been served."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6247184.stm

    CPS to react to cycle deaths call


    The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is expected to give its reaction
    later to criticisms made at an inquest into the deaths of four cyclists.
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    But the rolls had flour on top! I had them on a plate! Why shouldn't the saucepans have underlined the potato with gravel and spokes?
  • Jaded
    Jaded Posts: 6,663
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tourist_Tony</i>

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by rothbook</i>

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6246492.stm

    Cycle death families 'let down'


    The families of four cyclists mown down by an out-of-control car say
    they feel badly let down that the driver had not faced more serious
    criminal charges.


    The coroner has also said he failed to understand why Mr Harris had not
    been prosecuted for careless driving.


    The families' barrister, William Hoskins, said: "Following 18 months of
    unanswered questions and delays, which have added to the immense grief,
    and suffering caused by the tragic deaths of Dave, Maurice, Thomas and
    Wayne, the families are relieved that the coroner and jury have
    conducted a thorough investigation into this tragic event.


    "Our lawyers on our behalf, made clear to the chief crown prosecutor,
    our disbelief at the decision not to prosecute Mr Harris for driving
    offences.


    "We remain unhappy with that decision in the light of the evidence heard
    by the coroner.


    "In fact we feel badly let down by this decision and that justice has
    not been served."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_east/6247184.stm

    CPS to react to cycle deaths call


    The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) is expected to give its reaction
    later to criticisms made at an inquest into the deaths of four cyclists.
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    But the rolls had flour on top! I had them on a plate! Why shouldn't the saucepans have underlined the potato with gravel and spokes?
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    Very poor taste. Look to yourself.

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  • Tourist Tony
    Tourist Tony Posts: 8,628
    Beneath contempt even for Smith.

    If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick
    If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick
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