the male buttock

Tom Butcher · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dr_Nick

Pretty much all sport has an element of homoeroticism. Essentially nobody is completely gay or straight, and playing or watching sport (along with fighting) is a socially acceptable way of acting on these sublimated desires.
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No it doesn't, yes they are, no it isn't.

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CometGirl · June 2007

Simon.

Darlink.

You were looking very fine on the Friday night ride.

[:D]

Seriously, there's nothing wrong in men appreciating compliments. I think women do it more because we're constantly told that our bodies are inadequate compared to some skeletal grinning clothes-horse, and so we assume we need the reassurance more. I've never heard a man tell me he's "having a fat day."

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by simoncp

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Simon L2

Women compliment each other on their bodies all the time.

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Do they? In my experience they compliment each other on their clothes before bitching about body and clothes when a woman is not present. Womens magazines often run photos of celebrity women caught off guard - no make up, cellulite, bad choice of clothes etc. Women do look at each other much more than men, but it seems to me that is because they want to assess the competition, and many women seem to take delight in the unattractiveness of other women. Men don't seem to do this about other men, but perhaps this is because football, beer, women and other hobbies take up all the available conversation time.
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I always think women have more of a tendancy toward bisexuality than men. They are comfortable with physical contact with each other wheras men try and avoid it, and they have more of an emotional bond with their friends. I have known quite a few women who are mostly hetrosexual but who will admit to either having had a sexual encounter with another women or who would be willing to try it.

Whether men feel the same is impossible to tell, as very few would admit it.

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rothbook · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I always think women have more of a tendancy toward bisexuality than men. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Link please.

papercorn2000 · June 2007

He says "think", it's his opinion, do you need a link into his brain?

Smokin', I think you have made a good point there. Women may be more comfortable with their sexuality, men are less secure and, whether it's true or not, are less likely to admit to more ambiguous feelings towrds other men.

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rothbook · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> He says "think", it's his opinion, do you need a link into his brain? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

No, I just thought the point could perhaps have been illustrated with pictures of lesbitarians with no vests on. Never mind.

Expressions of admiration for a woman's figure are a minefield. You could say "Have you lost weight" whilst the opposite would be insulting and you could say "You have a lovely figure" whilst complimenting a woman on her tush would be rather forward.

And I'm speaking as a new man. I admire the woman's movement.

Hate it when they just lie there.

papercorn2000 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> He says "think", it's his opinion, do you need a link into his brain? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

No, I just thought the point could perhaps have been illustrated with pictures of lesbitarians with no vests on. Never mind.

Expressions of admiration for a woman's figure are a minefield. You could say "Have you lost weight" whilst the opposite would be insulting and you could say "You have a lovely figure" whilst complimenting a woman on her tush would be rather forward.

And I'm speaking as a new man. I admire the woman's movement.

Hate it when they just lie there.

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Sorry, it's Monday morning and my humour generator hasn't booted up yet.

So I will reiterate your cry for link(s).

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I always think women have more of a tendancy toward bisexuality than men. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Link please.
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Lesbian Frenzy
Strap on Fun
Lesbian Sauna
Hot Gals get it on

rothbook · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I think women do it more because we're constantly told that our bodies are inadequate compared to some skeletal grinning clothes-horse <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Cat Deeley (sp?) used to be fit as, now when I see her on telly I shout "Eat some lard woman!".

Wasn't Marilyn size sixteen? And Charlotte Church has a terrific figure compared with rake-thin girls who are so tiny their shoulder bone is pronounced. Clavicle, that bit below the shoulder which in too-thin girls is actually sunken.

papercorn2000 · June 2007

"Lesbian Frenzy
Strap on Fun
Lesbian Sauna
Hot Gals get it on"

These all sound delightful Patrick. But is it just stream of consciousness stuff or are they supposed to refer to actual websites?
If so, I hardly believe that the internet authorities would allow such strange-sounding websites to exist for too long. Anyway, there can't be many people who would want to see such things.

God told me to skin you alive.
http://www.ekroadclub.co.uk/

Simon L2 · June 2007

Right - let's take a different tack. Racehorses. Poetry in motion, and not generally the object of erotic desire (I feel Patrick stirring in the wings). I defy anybody not to be moved by the sight of a racehorse walking round the paddock, or sprinting at the end with it's ears back. Same with dogs, and, for some, cats. There's a sensual connection that is devoid of sexual desire (down, Patrick, down boy!). So it is with Ryan Giggs, or that chap that steams past you on your commute. You see a body that is not your own, but is a representation of your desire to achieve physical excellence, and, as I've said, a testament to the glorious economy of nature.

I chose to open this with a reference to the male buttock, because I thought it got to the meat of the matter in short order - but I'll own that there are women cyclists of my aquaintance who evoke appreciation of a simple nature rather than some sexual desire. Maybe I'm just past it. Be that as it may, it seems to me that if you're not gaining some pleasure from the human body that isn't aquisitive then life's letting you down.

Buggi · June 2007

i think you've all got it wrong. Your asking why men don't appreciate other men's looks and IMO it's for this reason.

in essence, your talking about sex... men want the perfect female form (whatever that might be in their mind, fat, thin, pear shaped, big boobies, whatever, they focus on the body) but women look for something else in men... an inner and outer strength. and it's all primal instinct. therefore, this is why men don't look at other men's "bodies"... they are looking at something else. let me explain:

women look at other women's "bodies" because that's what we are in sexual terms to men and if we see something we know is better than our own we admire it and at the same time are jealous. we want the perfect body too... women strive to be it because it's what makes men want us, and we compete against each other to be the best in this department. when the OPs wife's butt was admired, really the woman was wishing it was her butt.

but what women want is different. Don't get me wrong, we appreciate a fine body, but it's not what it's all about and deep down men know this. the body is the side effect of what we really want in a man... strength. women look for strength in men and therefore men admire "strength" in other men, and want it too and strive to be it. In today's society is usually shown through sport or job (it used to be as a warrior but you don't have that option anymore). men with a good physical strength are often sportsmen which is why men admire other sportsmen; they are admiring their "strength" not the body, they want it too because their primal instinct is telling them this is what will attract a woman. sportsmen often have mental strength too to get where they are (even men with a good mental strength but not physical strength often do well in the workplace; the women are not attracted to their money but rather their power).

that's why men don't admire the "body", they are admiring the man's overall mental and physical strength and the body is just the side effect of the "strength" if you understand what i mean.

so a straight man will never say "he's got good pecks" but will instead say "can you see how much that guy can bench press?!" because he is admiring his strength and not his body.

do you geddit?

that's my take on it from a woman's point of view.

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Simon L2 · June 2007

Buggi - thankyou.

I recognise a sort of (dismal) truth in what you say. My problem with it is that I think that the sexualising of the male response to the world is historical and not phenomenological. But...you only have to look at some of the posts above to realise the strength of your argument.

ankev1 · June 2007

To go off at a slight tangent on this: remember a month or two back when Bimbly had just got binned and then, reborn as usual, reappeared and published links to a couple of photos of himself? Up to that point he'd been getting a lot of wholly justified flak for his infantile, obnoxious behaviour but this suddenly dropped off for a few weeks and then what passes for a personality reasserted itself and normal service was resumed. My point is that because he didn't turn out to look anything like what I suspect was how most people imagined him to be; quite the opposite in fact, he looked normalish and possibly a pleasant chap - this meant that his physical appearance influenced how other (mostly male) forummers responded to him. OTH hand he wasn't going to publish any pics of him carpet chewing while having a fit about LLB, was he?

I suppose this is why it takes a while for serial killers to be caught: the police are all looking for somebody who looks like a serial killer when in fact he looks like a bank clerk.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Buggi

do you geddit?

that's my take on it from a woman's point of view.

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A very peceptive post. I found it difficult to understand at first because I'm only interested in women for their intelligence. [;)]

Tourist Tony · June 2007

Hmmmm. I remember responding to a very similar letter, to a biker mag I used to write for, from a woman who had analysed the personal ads. Women asked for personal traits in their ads, men physical appearance.
I pointed out that the women did indeed want a personality, as long as it was embedded in George Clooney/Mel Gibson.
The men wanted long legs/big chest/long hair, but would settle for APANC.

(A pulse and no cock)

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tourist Tony

Hmmmm. I remember responding to a very similar letter, to a biker mag I used to write for, from a woman who had analysed the personal ads. Women asked for personal traits in their ads,

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As this was a biker mag, was the most sought after personal trait, bathing at least once a month? [:)]

Tourist Tony · June 2007

No, it was....a sense of humour.

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Tourist Tony · June 2007

So I'd give up if I were you, Patrick

If I had a stalker, I would hug it and kiss it and call it George...or Dick

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tourist Tony

No, it was....a sense of humour.

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A veritable Holy Grail for biker women. [;)]

Blonde · June 2007

Aw, I thought this thread waa going to be full of descriptions and pictures! [:p]

Unknown · June 2007

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Aw, I thought this thread waa going to be full of descriptions and pictures! [:p]
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Men are quite capable of discussing such issues without having to look at pictures of perfectly tanned, honed, firm buttocks allied to muscular thighs. [;)]

Blonde · June 2007

Maybe so, but visual cues are always useful. I thought it was going to be about forummers own buttocks, rather than those of random strangers, but pictures of either/or both would still have been good...

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Blonde

Maybe so, but visual cues are always useful. I thought it was going to be about forummers own buttocks, rather than those of random strangers, but pictures of either/or both would still have been good...
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I'll see if I can find the office camera. [;)]

billsters · June 2007

I like men's bottoms, generally. They don't have to be perfect, which is just as well. If they are perfect, they're too distracting and I can't stop looking at them, especially if they are bare. Hmm.

Why do people specify "sense of humour" in personal ads? Everyone thinks they have a sense of humour, don't they?

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by billsters

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Some people are feel that they ought to have one, but are unsure, so to be on the safe side they claim to have one.

Unknown · June 2007

People who make a thing about potential partners having a sense of humour are probably so ugly it needs someone who likes a laugh to go out with them.

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Archcp · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Blonde

Maybe so, but visual cues are always useful. I thought it was going to be about forummers own buttocks, rather than those of random strangers, but pictures of either/or both would still have been good...
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I don't think my camera has a wide angle lens, or I would...

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Arch

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Blonde

Maybe so, but visual cues are always useful. I thought it was going to be about forummers own buttocks, rather than those of random strangers, but pictures of either/or both would still have been good...
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I don't think my camera has a wide angle lens, or I would...

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Thank you very much Arch! [:I]

Archcp · June 2007

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<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Arch

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Blonde

Maybe so, but visual cues are always useful. I thought it was going to be about forummers own buttocks, rather than those of random strangers, but pictures of either/or both would still have been good...
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I don't think my camera has a wide angle lens, or I would...

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Thank you very much Arch! [:I]
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I was talking about photographing my arse, you know, not yours...

If I had a baby elephant, it could help me clean the car. If I had a car.

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