Multiple personalities: consecutive and concurrent

redcogs · June 2007

Don't be too hard on 'Monkey ankev - as a former radical he does have some admirable qualities. Both Rothie and cuddy are on my favourite list, they both make pithy and brief (too brief and too infrequent in cud's case) contributions, unlike some of us, who elevate long winded repetition into an art form.

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ankev1 · June 2007

I'm not being hard on him at all, just a tweak of the tail. And I know I go on about rudeness a bit but I like to think that if somebody with whom I wholeheartedly agreed (and I do often agree with some of Bimbly's points), were to be obnoxious then I'd have a go at it.

Actually I think you're right about FM's ex-radical status. I reckon it might be his first step on the long road to getting a professorship.

Flying_Monkey · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ankev1

Come on FM, you only stick up for him because he shares your admiration for one particular comedian. Not even his biggest critic, Spire, could be said to "pursue" him. I hope you're not suggesting that he should be allowed to completely get away with his frequent and wholly unnecessary gross rudeness. Or do you think that manners don't matter? BTW it's obvious that you, like most of us, think they do matter because you post in a polite and civilised way, so perhaps you are even, by implication, open to charges of mild hypocrisy.
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I enjoy his general disregard for decorum, actually. And yes, I recognise he sometimes loses it. But I prefer this to the low-level snidey prejudices that characterise a lot of what some people, who think of themselves as well mannered and respectable, say.

And Spire not pursuing him? He started a thread entirely dedicated to outing him (once again)... which was then joined by the usual squeaking pack of chihuahuas - all rather pointless and hypocritical don't you think?

BTW, redcogs' description makes me sound like a Labour front-bencher. I prefer to think of myself as 'differently radical' [;)]...

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

ankev1 · June 2007

I suspect that Spire would let it rest (and I know I would) if he just came clean and apologised for once for his unjustifiable outbursts.

Come to think of it ... what does everbody think about a general truce? Wipe the slate clean as of today, all past sins forgiven etc. and we carry on in a slightly less confrontational atmosphere (I'm not suggesting that ideas shouldn't be shredded or attacked) but just with a bit more decorum.

rothbook · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> I suspect that Spire would let it rest (and I know I would) if he just came clean and apologised for once for his unjustifiable outbursts. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Good grief, if that's all you want on the same thread in which you slag off my parents and imply gaymosexuality then happy to oblige.

Mea culpa, I've used bad words and insulting language including fuzzbucket, dead old frog and scum sucker.

Apologies to anyone offended, sincerely.

Let's move on and put this whole fandango behind us.

redcogs · June 2007

Professor 'Monkey?! That would be too much to bear. He already overplays the 'i've read this so your view has less validity than mine' card. As Prof he might prove insufferable.

Still, i'm not seeking to offend, and he's not wishing to be provoked, so i'm happy to withdraw the 'Labour Front Bencher' implication. More a wet liberal perhaps?

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Gary Askwith · June 2007

FM has changed over the years..but so have i..its called evoloution...minds evolving and learning continually, hopefully![:)]
Nothing worse than stagnation or being content with any particular reach-off-the-shelf ideology-even if it does not look like a ideology
After a while you go beyond left and Right and when you do you see nothing is black and white.. there are no easy answers and by default any easy answer is likley to be wrong
If that sounds like a recipe for pessimism and dispair then your wrong because peradoxically the journey of discovery you tread illuminates the mad ingenuity of humanity in hiding from itself... and that inspires hope when you find the scattered half-solutions in totally unexpected places

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

ankev1 · June 2007

Do you think if he did become a prof he might change his moniker to Swinging Gorilla to reflect his new sense of gravitas?

redcogs · June 2007

Heck Gaz - you been taking the vapours and whispering the OMMMM again?

Beyond left and right? The end of History?

fukiyama..

;-)

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spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Flying_Monkey

And Spire not pursuing him? He started a thread entirely dedicated to outing him (once again)... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Not the case FM. My complaint is about simultaneous, not consecutive multiple identities.

I believe Martin Bimbly is now also creating extra dentities to argue with himself (Fantom). [:D]

And what about Patrick's point:

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Patrick Stevens

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

There's only ever been one me at a time. Martin Dann posts on Google Groups where I'm Spindrift:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec ... ing&q=dann

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Hasn't it every occurred to you that you are playing a rather dangerous game. You cruise the net, being gratutiously offensive while going to considerable lengths to conceal your identity. There has been speculation on Pistonheads as to your identity and various real people have been "outed" erroneously as being you.

It only take one nut on the net (and there are plenty) to decide to retaliate against a named individual and some innocent person ends up having a very nasty time.

Now, it might be great fun to you to go round hysterically baiting others, but its not funny when you do it anonymously and potentially cause problems for innocent people. It's power without responsibility - the prerogative of the tosspot through the ages.

You're not some silly sixteen year old coming to terms with acne and life - judging by the photo posted a while back, you're in your thirties. Isn't it about time you accepted some responsibility and either calmed down in the tone of your posting or posted under your real name so that innocent third parties don't come under suspicion?
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(Sorry for moving this from the other thread Patrick, but FM was bleating.)

Flying_Monkey · June 2007

Sounds like an idea... I used to be 'Green Weasel' on some fora a long time ago. I'm not quite as insufferable in real life as FM is on here. It's odd how online personas take on a life of their own to a certain extent. That's another reason I think there's little point in getting too worked up about what people say and do here.

(and redcogs, I'm still happy to be an buddhist anarcho-eco-social-democrat, or something like that... I certainly am 'less radical' than I used to be, but then I was stupidly radical when much younger - I think that's very necessary and I'm suspicious of anyone who's never had radical views, but as I'm getting older, I find simple positions are often just that, and I just don't fit into any party lines or ideological grouping. I'm interested in how we actually get to a better society not just in either on the one hand imagining it in conversation, or on the other, living as if it was better and ignoring the fact that it isn't - though I do a bit of both)

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

1. Good grief, if that's all you want on the same thread in which you slag off my parents and imply gaymosexuality then happy to oblige.

Mea culpa, I've used bad words and insulting language including fuzzbucket, dead old frog and scum sucker.

2. Apologies to anyone offended, sincerely.

Let's move on and put this whole fandango behind us.
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1. More homophobia; or is this another 'joke'.

2. Then why mix your apology with more insults? Do you have Tourette's?

rothbook · June 2007

Apologies.

Without insults.

redcogs · June 2007

Its going to be v dull if peace breaks out ont forum.

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Flying_Monkey · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire
some large quote from Patrick cut'n'pasted from another thread
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Please don't try to appropriate someone else's perhaps more genuinely well-meaning views and claim them as your own. You didn't start this thread through any concern about Rothbook's wellfare, did you? Be honest... and let's have an end to this harassment.

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

Apologies.

Without insults.

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OK. Fine.

I'm prepared to start afresh.

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Flying_Monkey

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire
some large quote from Patrick cut'n'pasted from another thread
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Please don't try to appropriate someone else's perhaps more genuinely well-meaning views and claim them as your own. You didn't start this thread through any concern about Rothbook's wellfare, did you? Be honest... and let's have an end to this harassment.

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Appropriated? It was clearly Patrick's quote!!

And it was you that was bleating about another thread being hijacked!

redcogs · June 2007

'Monkey. i'm the same as you. My political radicalism has significantly waned. In fact, to a significant degree, i'm 'worse' than you, if you will allow a value judgement, for i have the impression that you are at least an 'activist' in a variety of worthy arenas.

i used to act, now i whinge from a computer chair. So, in reality, i've no valid critique of you, or anyone else, for adopting this or that political position, progressive or otherwise.

So, no serious criticism intended - keep on keeping on with the plea for greater rationality. Its a scarce resource.

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Gary Askwith · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

'Monkey. i'm the same as you. My political radicalism has significantly waned. In fact, to a significant degree, i'm 'worse' than you, if you will allow a value judgement, for i have the impression that you are at least an 'activist' in a variety of worthy arenas.

i used to act, now i whinge from a computer chair. So, in reality, i've no valid critique of you, or anyone else, for adopting this or that political position, progressive or otherwise.

So, no serious criticism intended - keep on keeping on with the plea for greater rationality. Its a scarce resource.

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Refreshingly honest, as ever... plus that feeling of powerlessness in the face of overwhelming odds and vested interests?
How each individual copes with this feeling is whats interesting

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

linfordlunchbox · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

Apologies.

Without insults.

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Is this an open apology and a step towards more civility in debates on here, or am I to burn in damnation forever more also ?

"I'd clean my car with a baby elephant - if I had a baby elephant !"

Flying_Monkey · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire
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Appropriated? It was clearly Patrick's quote!!

And it was you that was bleating about another thread being hijacked!
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Doesn't matter now - all is forgiven.

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

Absinthe Minded · June 2007

What makes me laugh about this thread is that I can't understand why any of you care about who's whom, how many aliases somebody has, whether they're SS trolls, etc, etc.

I mean who cares? What does it matter?

<hr noshade size="1">Ja sam napisao ovo ovde samo zbog toga da izgledam pametan...

See My route to work!

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Absinthe Minded

I mean who cares? What does it matter?

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It certainly matters if I'm suspected of being redcogs.[:0] I've got an application in to join Rotary.

Absinthe Minded · June 2007

.....oh yes, I never thought of that. [;)]

<hr noshade size="1">Ja sam napisao ovo ovde samo zbog toga da izgledam pametan...

See My route to work!

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Absinthe Minded

.....oh yes, I never thought of that. [;)]

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And I only stand a chance because I've sent them a picture of Blonde.

redcogs · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
It certainly matters if I'm suspected of being redcogs.[:0] I've got an application in to join Rotary.
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There could be a benefit of being confused with me Patrick - imagine a new peer group who have conversation about subjects other than income and inheritance tax, private dentistry considerations, asylum seeker crime, the drain of having to support a welfare state, which new Limou' to secure etc etc.

Its not all negative y'know.

[:)]

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

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There could be a benefit of being confused with me Patrick - imagine a new peer group who have conversation about subjects other than income and inheritance tax, private dentistry considerations, asylum seeker crime, the drain of having to support a welfare state, which new Limou' to secure etc etc.

Its not all negative y'know.

[:)]

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But redders, what other subjects can there be - apart from Capital Gains Tax, of course?

rothbook · June 2007

Your email's a crock Patrick. Your snippy remarks pre-date you even mentioning the fact that armed gangs of motorists may attack someone innocent as revenge for what I write. Argue with what I've said if you like and stop playing silly games.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rothbook

Your email's a crock Patrick. Your snippy remarks pre-date you even mentioning the fact that armed gangs of motorists may attack someone innocent as revenge for what I write. Argue with what I've said if you like and stop playing silly games.

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Why don't you try talking things through with some friends. I'm sure it would help.

rothbook · June 2007

Excellent, the silly games have stopped already.

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