Rim eyelets?

cpeachey · May 2007

[?]What, if any are the advantages of eyelets in a rim? I have a Velocity Aerohead rim that has no eyelets and I am wondering if it is in any way inferior.
Chris[;)]

Bianchi Boy · May 2007

Don't know. My old Mavic MA40's had eyelets, and they were always going out of true. None of my newer rims have them, and I've had no problems.

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edeverett · May 2007

Aren't they to spread the load of the spoke head to a larger area?

I guess it's just one way of designing a rim, not necessarily better or worse.

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Unknown · May 2007

Eyelets allow a you to put greater tension on the spokes, which will give a more reliable wheel. A plain rim will allow the nipples to pull through the rim more easily. The out of true problem experienced by Bianchi Boy was caused by a badly built wheel and nothing to do with whether or not it had eyelets.

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Bianchi Boy · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Smokin Joe

Eyelets allow a you to put greater tension on the spokes, which will give a more reliable wheel. A plain rim will allow the nipples to pull through the rim more easily. The out of true problem experienced by Bianchi Boy was caused by a badly built wheel and nothing to do with whether or not it had eyelets.

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Nothing wrong with the build. They just kept going out of true quite frequently despite being trued by variuos LBS's.

They were quite an old design compared to modern rims, and no doubt many improvments in modern rims keep them in true for longer.

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hubgearfreak · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bianchi Boy

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Smokin Joe

Eyelets allow a you to put greater tension on the spokes, which will give a more reliable wheel. A plain rim will allow the nipples to pull through the rim more easily. The out of true problem experienced by Bianchi Boy was caused by a badly built wheel and nothing to do with whether or not it had eyelets.

Nobody ever got laid because they were using Shimano
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Nothing wrong with the build. They just kept going out of true quite frequently despite being trued by variuos LBS's.
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it's all to do with the build.

any half decent rim and half decent spokes assembled properly will stay true for the life of the rim....if they fail before that, then it's because of poor building or extreme stress, such as riding up a kerb

Joe is correct about the eyelets spreading the load of the small diametere of the spoke nipple over a greater area, allowing for higher tensions, or thinner rims, or a bit of both

cooper.michael1 · May 2007

Double eyelets spread the load even futher between the unside anf outside of the rim. I always buy double eyelet rims.

Coops

Bianchi Boy · May 2007

any half decent rim and half decent spokes assembled properly will stay true for the life of the rim....

Cool! I'll ditch all my spoke spanners then!

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hubgearfreak · May 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bianchi Boy

Cool! I'll ditch all my spoke spanners then!

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the set of wheels i built early last year are still true.
that's carrying 85kg me & now 13kg son. with mudgaurds, rack, saddlebag, childseat & etc. the bike is 18kgs.

Anonymous · May 2007

none eyeleted rims should be a bit thicker in the spoke hole area to compensate for less material.

it is easier to build a good wheel with a rim with eyelets. and it is easy to build a bad wheel with a rim that does not have eyelets.

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cpeachey · June 2007

Thanks for your replies. I know what to look for now.
Chris

pbiggs · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Bianchi Boy
They were quite an old design compared to modern rims, and no doubt many improvments in modern rims keep them in true for longer.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">As long as it's not bent, the rim has little to do with how true a wheel stays. It's mostly down to spoke tension. MA40 was fairly stiff anyway. Your rims were not responsible for your problems.

MA40 was just the anodised version of the MA2, by the way.

~Pete

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