Indurain
People say he was boring, that he didn't win stages (except TT's)
but it was Indurain that I first saw when I watched the TdF on
Channel 4 and it was impressive how he dominated the field. And
unlike LA he did the double twice, so.... I was wondering with the balance of probability did he dope?
After Hevipedal...
35 and indifferent about it
no idea on my weight (certainly not to the nearest kg)
just happy to ride
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but it was Indurain that I first saw when I watched the TdF on
Channel 4 and it was impressive how he dominated the field. And
unlike LA he did the double twice, so.... I was wondering with the balance of probability did he dope?
After Hevipedal...
35 and indifferent about it
no idea on my weight (certainly not to the nearest kg)
just happy to ride
[:)]
'Do not compare your bike to others, for always there will be greater and lesser bikes'
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Did you get planning permission for that sense of humour bypass?
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Just once I would like to be called "Sir", without someone adding "You're making a scene".
Just once I would like to be called "Sir", without someone adding "You\'re making a scene".
He was a freak of nature like Ian Thorpe in swimming. If a some nutty scientist tried to build the ultimate TTer it would be a clone of Indurain: his height and power coupled with an incredible vo2 capacity and low heart rate....
interesting reading his response to Riis's confession:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... may29news2
I'd put odds of million to one on him ever "coming out" like Riis.
Indurain is something of a 'Frankenstein' cyclist...
He was a freak of nature like Ian Thorpe in swimming. If a some nutty scientist tried to build the ultimate TTer it would be a clone of Indurain: his height and power coupled with an incredible vo2 capacity and low heart rate....
interesting reading his response to Riis's confession:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... may29news2
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Would that be the Ian Thorpe currently investigating apparently abnormal testosterone results from just prior to his retirement?[}:)]
Interesting link at
http://www.theage.com.au/news/swimming/ ... 08414.html
Apparently "The panel in the Turnbull case also accepted that his high testosterone levels could have been influenced by his consumption of eight pints of beer and three or four shots of spirits the night before the test."
That's where Floyd got the idea then...
Did you get planning permission for that sense of humour bypass?
I guess there is no such thing as natural talent anymore.....[V]
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On a different scale to EPO use of course as half of the peloton are "asthmatic" according to some accounts.
Deal with it.
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Moreover, Indurain isn't really of the intellectual calibre to refuse on the grounds of principle or to resist the demands of his employer; not when one is guaranteeing one's future financial security, given his 'humble' origins. Not that he wasn't a superb, hard-working athlete, of course.......like Riis.
TdG
Indurain is something of a 'Frankenstein' cyclist...
He was a freak of nature like Ian Thorpe in swimming. If a some nutty scientist tried to build the ultimate TTer it would be a clone of Indurain: his height and power coupled with an incredible vo2 capacity and low heart rate....
interesting reading his response to Riis's confession:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... may29news2
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The reason why Thorpe is so good is his technique, he may have doped, but I would be very suprised.
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I can't agree that his tour wins were boring. He ran the show in 4 out of the 5 he won whilst competing in other notable races throughout the years. Awesome display of control and power.
As for doping well as Luigi says there's no logical alternative explanation. Nonetheless he panned everyone else so still a legend.
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Forgive me Foghat but you do sound a bit like Mourhino giving Ronaldo a bit of upper class stick.
In any event I'm hoping for a non-anglophile winner in the TDF this year. Had enough of the Duffield "You'll note that no <i>English-speaking</i> riders are implicated in operation Puerto, are clean, etc." Vive la difference!
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It is only relatively recently that the authorities and public have come down hard against this practice
Regards
Indurain's Time Trial at Luxembourg at the 1992 was shocking as the size of his victory margin was trully amazing, and Fignon indeed described Indurain that day as extra terrestrial. For me Indurain's TT that day and Chiapuccis ride to Sestriere n that same 1992 TDF were two of themost incredible wins I'd watched since following the sport from 1984
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And landis last year.
Dan
However, given the time he was racing, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he was on something.
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Indurain's Time Trial at Luxembourg at the 1992 was shocking as the size of his victory margin was trully amazing, and Fignon indeed described Indurain that day as extra terrestrial. For me Indurain's TT that day and Chiapuccis ride to Sestriere n that same 1992 TDF were two of themost incredible wins I'd watched since following the sport from 1984
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And landis last year.
Dan
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One thing confuses me though, if everyone was doping surely winning magins like this wouldn't be possible.
Hypocrisy is only a bad thing in other people.
Hypocrisy is only a bad thing in other people.
Dan
I normally don't reply strongly to posts on here, but when I read stuff like that I'm afraid I just can't ignore it.
cocothedog - I think you are too polite. Foghart - that is absolute [email protected]
I normally don't reply strongly to posts on here, but when I read stuff like that I'm afraid I just can't ignore it.
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I tend to aree with Foghat-Indurain's comment on Riis were so vague, so fence sitting it's hard not to be a bit annoyed at Indurain. We know what the top 10 ahead of Indurain were on; would Miguel bring that up? Indurain didn't feel cheated, which means he considers Riis won fair, which means something very obvious
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"At the top of his career, Miguel Indurain had a physique that was not only superior when compared to average people, but also when compared to his fellow athletes. His blood circulation had the ability to circulate 7 litres of oxygen around his body per minute[1], compared to the average amount of 3-4 litres of an ordinary person and the 5-6 litres of his fellow riders. Also, Indurain's lung capacity was 8 litres, compared to an average of 6 litres. In addition, Indurain's resting pulse was as low as 29 BPM, compared to a normal human's 60-80 bpm , which meant his heart would be less strained in the tough mountain stages[2]. His VO2 max was 88 ml/kg/min; in comparison, Lance Armstrong's was 82
ml/kg/min."
Source: Wikepedia (but who supplied Wikepedia with this info is anyone's guess. Could have been Indurain's PR consultant for all I know).