The end of Tour de France on ITV is nigh
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I think it would work fine.
The COVID tour was all commentated on remotely although I think they all stayed at the same place for maximum cross infection.
Rob Hatch does most of his work without leaving Soller and I don't think Sean pops round to do the co-comms.
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Cake is just weakness entering the body2 -
Rob does the Giro on site rather than at home- and Sean is with him. But rest is remote, and it has been some years since Eurosport commentated on site. Certainly a year or two pre covid.
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Most of the commentary comes (or at least came) from a basement studio in Bath. Sean & some of the others could be spotted in Bath during their breaks- hence the ‘fudgepacker’ comment from Robbie
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That ended when WBD closed GCN+
Actually it ended largely when Discovery and WB merged. Think there was the odd race, like the Giro, when some used Bath.
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Both the Tour and Vuelta coverage was filmed somewhere near Windsor, as that's where the presenters were staying. The GCN base was in Bath, now that's gone I think they'll continue to use Warner Bros studios elsewhere.
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I think the NSF podcast covered it well by saying that ITV coverage is more cultural but the real racing fan chooses Eurosport.
Maybe there aren't enough "new fans" out there to sustain FTA.
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If they're serious about growing their audience and free to air is the agreed gateway drug yet the broadcasters can't afford it then the price is wrong.
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They spoke about it on latest Cycling Podcast too, Friebe made the point that these days the gateway into sports (especially for the young) isn't terrestrial TV, it's clips on social media
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I bet disco will charge us extra to watch the tour
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Once again the drive for profit results in a inferior product and choice . Literally the things that free markets are suppose to deliver .
WBD Is a monopoly and should be broken up by anti trust regulation
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Interesting observation, and one that is not inconsistent with the experience of my youngest (now age 20) who has got into footie and athletics via social media clips. However, the level of interest generated by social media clips seems very superficial, with the real first step being to watch on TV (footie at the pub and athletics via Olympics).
I doubt there's much chance of going straight from SM clips to a subscription package for anything other than the highest profile sports. But I'm no marketing expert.
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I think Rick, as self-appointed forum spokesperson for youth, has made the same point previously.
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The problem of having a 3 minute attention span unfortunately.
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You're showing your age if you think social media clips are 3 minutes long
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Social f'ing media! At its core cycling is an endurance sport and that applies to the audience too. If you can't do 5 hours a day for 3 weeks are you even a fan bro ?
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I didn't comment on the length of the clips, just the attention span. They are not the same thing.
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The lad's barely out of changing nappies
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Right yes just a completely unrelated comment.
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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Joking aside, road cycling isn't really a sport that works via "social media clips" bar sprint finishes and crashes.
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I'm not sure: when does a clip become edited highlights?
For the first few days of Paris Nice or a flat day in the Vuelta an 8 minute highlight reel is sufficient for me and a couple of those involve a helicopter shot and an annoying baseline accompanied by a whiff of CK Waffle.
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Cake is just weakness entering the body0 -
A "clip" is likely a minute or less e.g. a goal (plus a slomo), a try, a wicket, a barrage of sixes, a gymnastics routine, a penalty shootout with the gaps edited out etc.
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You'll have to explain that to me, I'm afraid!
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Search Cosmo Catalano on YouTube and you'll come across a host of post race highlight/analysis videos. He's well liked among cycling fans as he tends to be very good at what he does. He's been doing them for quite a few years now.
Always signs off his videos saying "I'm Cosmo Catalano, and that's how the race was won"
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Cosmo rules! Sadly he had difficulty in getting footage plus he became a parent too so he focuses most on podcasting plus occasional MTB and CX videos.
His AI reworking of an old 2014 TdeF review with Werner Herzog as the narrator is a masterpiece IMHO.
His podcasts with Dane Cash answer the question nobody was asking: what would it be like if Wayne's World did a cycling show?
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Watching on a phone isn't great either as the landscape is often the star of the show
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You guys are right these short form clips probably won't take off
- Genesis Croix de Fer
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