TDF 2024:- Stage 20: Nice – Col de la Couillole, 132.8km ***Spoilers***

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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,161

    If you've got enough energy to hug it out, you've got enough left in the tank for a one handed wheelie.

    That's all I'm sayin.

  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620

    Only mountain bikers and cross riders know how to do tricks on bikes... like descending.

    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,643

    Read the post as Cav being LR. It’s still going to be hard to judge the times the fast guys to risk taking it easy and enjoying his final stage though.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,643

    It would have been amusing if it had resulted in them giving Pog the KoM instead.

  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 325

    Yeah, I thought JV did really well today. Remco tried to his credit but didnt quite have it. Be interesting to see how and even what Remco does tomorrow with next Saturday looming large.

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,546

    A few comments from Pog today on this subject. Hard to disagree.

    "One stage win would be enough, the yellow jersey would be enough, but it is what it is. You don’t brake in cycling.”

    “I didn’t want to work with Jonas, I wanted to recover on his wheel, and maybe let a chance for Carapaz and Mas to go for the victory,”

    “We gave the breakaway enough time today. They had big chances. They had chances a lot of times. Sprinters also don’t say another sprinter can win, I will back off a bit."

    "It’s a sport where you want to win, you need to win, and you’re paid to win. It’s a pressure, and you need to deliver, otherwise it’s not good for you. You alway need to go for the victory if you can.”

    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,733

    With the possible exception of Wout van Aert, I think Visma have ridden this third week of the Tour, exceptionally well and this final two days they have been outstanding.

    Dick move by Jorgensen though.

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,699

    I threw in a couple of suggestions up-thread. I'm just wondering why you assume Jorgenson just randomly decides to be a complete prick without provocation? I mean, he rode all day with him yesterday and let him have 60 points uncontested.

    I mean personally, I think something like:

    UAE: Dont ride with Jorgenson and you can have the mountain points

    Carapaz: OK

    Jorgensen: Fuck you then, those points aren't UAE's to dispense

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,699

    Oh I don't think Jonas was ever going to beat Pog in a sprint today, and I don't think Pog was scared of that.

    But he's been grooming Remco as his bestie so they can work together against Vingegaard, and he wasn't blowing that by putting time into him. He also didn't want the blame for pulling the break back, and wanted to keep his legs as fresh for tomorrow, where he hopes to convincingly win the TT

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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,802
    edited July 2024

    Pics aren’t loading :(

    Great day out, totally cooked myself on the return climb over Brauss, saved by a Snickers.

    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,699

    Good day out?

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,643

    You need to make them less than 2000 pixels wide (and possibly compress them to 80 or 90%)

  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293

    Nah thats the far more relevant (these days at least) "Hot water, good dentishtry and shoft lavatory paper"

    Good luck finding the 2nd though. Good or otherwise

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,914

    Look.forward to them

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 325

    Back to this. It would be very rare for a rider who has previously won the tour, to then finish and not win it, and then come back to win the tour.

    Pogacar is I think only the fifth man to do this after Magne, Coppi, Anquetil and Hinault. Pog will be the first former winner to come back and then win again, having finished two in between without winning.

  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,110

    Firmin Lambot did it (I googled it)

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  • stage_hunter
    stage_hunter Posts: 325
    edited July 2024

    So he did. Lost by 8hrs + one year, won it the next. Doh. I was too busy looking at Thys from around the same time. Does show that losing the tour after winning it rarely leads to someone winning it again. It would be an achievement for JV.

  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,617

    You took the tough way home. You could have follwed the tour down the descent from the Turini and then headed left to largely follow the valley home, though you would have still had to do the Col de Nice again.

  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,802

    I did think I must have done as there were so few others on the road. I just reversed the route.

    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660

    How fast was Pog going versus the others?

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,699

    The exact same speed as the rest of the yellow jersey group?

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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,802

    Yeah, just in the pack as he passed. Watching back his finish against JV after another two climbs and after 20 stages you realise (again) just what extreme athletes they are though. Amazing.

    2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner

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