TDF 2024:- Stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux – Superdévoluy, 177.8km ***Spoilers***

blazing_saddles
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edited July 16 in Pro race

Stage 17: Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux – Superdévoluy, 177.8km

July 17th.

Start Time: 11-35BST.

The 17th stage of the Tour de France is a 177.8 kilometres long test between Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux and Superdévoluy. The elevaton gain is roughly 3,000 metres and most of it is crammed inside the last 40 kilometres.

As the race homes in on the southern Alps, there will be no significant obstacles crossing the Drôme. The tests beyond that, though, are likely to encourage the formation of a large breakaway group, whose members will have a chance to shine, assuming they can deal with the climbs in the final 40 kilometres.

Profile.

Map.

The Climbs.

Col Bayard (Cat. 2) The climb of the Col Bayard is 6.8km at an average 7.3% to a height of 1,246m.

Col du Noyer (Cat. 1) (Bonus Point)

Côte de Superdévoluy (Cat. 3)

Final Kilometres.

From that last summit of the Col du Noyer, it’s 11.5 kilometres to the finish in the Superdévoluy ski resort. This section starts with a descent. The Côte de Superdévoluy makes its entrance in the Tour de France history. With 3.8 kilometres at 5.9% it’s not the hardest climb in the world.


What to Expect.

These climbs aren't too challenging, so there's not much for the GC contenders to gain. Which paves the way for a successful breakaway. Interestingly enough, the breakaway is likely to form on the flat section – probably after a prolonged battle. Obviously, a breakaway that forms on the flat will mostly consist of riders who excel on that terrain. But they’ll have a hard time in the mountainous finale. So any climber who can make the selection should be favourite for the win.

Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux

Chef-lieu of a canton in Drôme (26)

Stage town for the 5th time

Population: 9,500

SAINT-PAUL-TROIS-CHÂTEAUX AND CYCLING

Over the last fifteen years or so, Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux has served as a relay for the Tour de France in the Rhône Valley on four occasions, each time for stage starts. In 2011, the peloton headed for Gap, where Thor Hushovd won ahead of his compatriot Edvald Boasson-Hagen to secure Norway's first one-two finish in the Tour. The following year, the race stopped here again, heading for Cap d'Agde, where André Greipel showed off his speed. In 2018, the riders set off for a stage that ended in Mende with Omar Fraile's victory. And in 2021, Nils Politt won in Nîmes. 

Specialities: Tricastin black truffle. AOC Grignan-les-Adhémar wines, Eyguebelle syrups, olive oil, lavender.

Wines of Grignan-les-Adhémar

Hampered by the notoriety of the nuclear power station of the same name, but also by the small size of their vineyards, the former Coteaux du Tricastin have obtained an exceptional decision from the INAO to rename their appellation Grignan-les-Adhémar from the 2010 harvest. The decision was backed up by a new set of specifications with yields limited to 45 hl/ha, increased Syrah and Viognier grape varieties (minimum 30 pc per vineyard), a ban on total weed control, leading to better tillage of the soil, and an incentive to develop organic farming. Red wines account for more than 70 pc of production and express their own personality within the Rhône Valley through a successful marriage of six red grape varieties: Syrah and Grenache, backed up by Carignan, Mourvèdre, Cinsault and Marselan. Their wines are lively, with a nose that exudes spices (cinnamon, pepper, vanilla), red and black fruit as well as hints of liquorice and garrigue.

Superdévoluy

Hautes-Alpes mountain resort

Stage city for the first time.

Population: 910

SUPERDÉVOLUY AND CYCLING

SuperDévoluy has been hoping to host the Grande Boucle for a long time, and now it has succeeded. In 2016, the resort in the Southern Alps hosted the final stage of the Critérium du Dauphiné and gave two British riders a chance to shine: Stephen Cummings, who won the stage solo after escaping on the Cols de Moissière and du Noyer, and Chris Froome, who was crowned overall winner for the third time. Back in 2013, Froome won an edition in which the queen stage, won by Samuel Sanchez, finished in SuperDévoluy.

Specialities: Dévoluy lamb, tourtons, gratin dauphinois, tarte des Alpes. Ewe's milk cheeses, herbal teas, beer.

Craft beers

Christophe Wang, a former trainer in the French Air Force, and François Lefebvre, a native of the Beaujolais region, both came to Dévoluy to create their own craft beer, Bure for the former and Brasserie Interstellaire du Dévoluy for the latter. Christophe, who wanted to rediscover the taste of the British beers he loves, offers a lager and an amber, as well as a special beer brewed each month (white, IPA, Christmas beer). Under evocative names such as La Ferrata, La Filante and La Flèche, François brews lagers and amber ales made entirely with water from Dévoluy.

Gratin dauphinois

Traditionally consumed by peasants in the historic Dauphiné region in France, gratin dauphinois is a savory dish consisting of thinly sliced potatoes, crème fraîche, and butter baked in a shallow earthenware cooking vessel. The dish can be eaten on its own, preferably with a salad on the side, or as an accompaniment to fish or meat dishes.


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Comments

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,656

    A breakaway day at last!

    But with Bini a bit banged up and Van Aert hungry for a stage win, this could be a day when too many teams are trying to get in the break and too many trying to control it....

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 16

    Healey is a outside threat to the bottom GC top ten. ..may complicate his ability to get in the break

    Carapaz and Healey will probably want to be in there thou ...Bora got to give it a go too...they were good with jai the other day


    Sprint is a long way in. wanty can't afford for philipsen to get in the break without Girmay now

    Wanty may try help push a big break down the road

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,727
    edited July 16

    Healy is 9 minutes behind the next rider in the GC and almost 30 minutes down in the overall. Nowhere near the top 10.

    The gaps are so big now, I wouldn’t be surprised to see riders around 10th trying for the break.

    Looking at the profile, tomorrow could see the longest breakaway battle of the entire race.

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 16

    9 mins while hard to do is possible by accident over the rest of the week ...even in the minds of the top ten

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,727

    It’s Jorgensen in 12th who’s 9 minutes ahead.

    I really don’t think they will be that bothered.

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    3 of the sprints left are realistically in contention and one outside one for a Girmay with good legs ...I think he is tiring though ... That's 60 points to play with in a roughly 40 point lead .


    Girmay could lose this if unlucky

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 16

    I don't know who to pick ..I suspect there is a few riders who have done nothing so far targeting this stage we may see for the first time

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 781

    Col Bayard is a horrible climb – steeper than one in advance has imagined; when one feels the top is close, it's always that bit farther away; can be really hard/tiring if the afternoon sun is shining on one's back.

    Doesn't apply to the Tour riders, but for the likes of most of us, it is also a busy road traffic-wise, so to be avoided when planning a private tour.

  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334

    Yeah, but Philipsen could easily lose it if the commissaires actually watch one of his sprints (although today was a rare exercise in choosing a straight line between points A and B, and remarkably without interfering with wheels X or Y whilst doing so)

    Everybody is well rested after whatever today was, there's loads of teams looking to rescue something from the ashes, and instead I've got to go to a bloody funeral. I suspect it's going to be a cracker.

    Erm, the racing, that is...

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    I went for Carapaz on PTP but even though event has this as a bailed on breakaway stage I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see another accidental GC battle due to teams not letting a break get a decent gap.

  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,727

    That's what I see when looking at this profile. Rooting for the break, but suspecting it will take too long to form.

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,166

    If it gets chased down, it won't be uae or visma doing it. I think it will take a long time and a break of about 40 will eventually go.

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Half wheeling is fast

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    This wind not helping the climbers escape

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    No one prepared to go

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Weird tension

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Kung giving it a go

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Ef all in

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,312

    i'd go for Carapaz on this. So will Jonas go into Froome/Giro mode one day or is that not his MO? Worked for Froome but that was a special set of circumstances

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,166

    Boom

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,166

    Absolutely did not expect this.

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Splits everywhere

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,727

    Very early for echelons

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Remco caught out?

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    No fake news

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 17

    Soler and sivakov caught behind

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Coming back together

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,727

    It was nice while it lasted but they are running out of exposed road.

    Curiously quiet now.

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,656

    Geraint trying to get away

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