Tour de France 2024 Rest Day 2 ***SPOILERS***

No_Ta_Doctor
No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652

So, Pog's got this one wrapped up, barring disaster, hasn't he?

Vingegaard will carry on trying to find those missing 3 minutes but it's going to take a spectacular collapse for anything to change. The podium positions themselves look fairly sorted as well, barring Remco smashing it out of the park. So we have some minor GC positions to entertain us.

Obviously the grim spectre of Covid hangs over all of this, we could still see things completely buggered up by illness.

So the last week - very tough looking:

  • Sprint stage
  • Beakaway
  • Breakaway
  • Mountains
  • Mountains
  • TT

Or is that Titties?


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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143

    When does Pog start thinking about doing the Vuelta as well?

  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,149

    If I was Pog I'd want a wheelbarrow full of spondulix though, just the acknowledge the bare faced cheek of it.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,652

    I guess he could ride The Vuelta as prep for the worlds, he wouldn't be the first....

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,320

    I'd say now if he is anything above 75%. Who's the competition?

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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332

    If that top three changes it'll be one of the great turnarounds, for sure.

    They've got enough time in hand though that neither Vingegaard nor Remco are really riding to preserve their podium, and JV is presumably confident enough in beating Remco to not worry too much either. Hopefully that means there might still be some fun to come rather than becoming entirely defensive.

  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    No_Ta_Doctor said "So, Pog's got this one wrapped up, barring disaster, hasn't he?"

    I don't think he has. I'd not be at all surprised to see Vingegaard emerge from the rest day totally refreshed and historically, when he does take time from Pogacar, he takes big time.

  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549

    Can we please put this "Pogacar to do the Vuelta" nonsense to bed right now. He's not going to ride it.

    I know it's hard to believe, but he's human and there is no way he can maintain form for that long. If he races again this year, he'll do a few one day races in the lead up to Lombardy.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143

    No. No we can't.

  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,725

    This race is far from over. The weather is set to turn hot and for the end of next week, particularly Friday, the thermometer could well be pushing 100F.

    And we all know who doesn’t do well in such exceptional conditions.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Managed to get out of a site visit on Friday, haven't had to do many in recent months and someone tried to set one for Friday afternoon which is wrong on all sorts of levels considering it was a 2.5 hour each way journey!

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Done and dusted.

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  • davidof
    davidof Posts: 3,116


    "He spent a very drunken afternoon": the spectator who threw crisps at Pogacar taken into custody


    INFO LE PARISIEN. The young man who threw crisps at Pogacar and Vingegaard was arrested by the gendarmes and taken into custody for aggravated assault. After spending the night in a custody, he will be questioned this Sunday.


    "It was a great afternoon at the Tour de France, with lots of people celebrating, meeting new people and being passionate about cycling, until this stupid gesture". Alexis, in his thirties and originally from Brittany, was very close to the arch indicating the finish, two kilometres from this Saturday's stage, which finished in Saint-Lary-Soulan Pla d'Adet (Hautes-Pyrénnées).


    Except that his day of festivities with his two friends was slightly tarnished by the gesture of the spectator opposite him, on the other side of the road. This other young man, born in 1992, with whom he had made friends in the afternoon, deliberately threw crisps in the faces of Tadej Pogacar (UAE Emirates) and Jonas Vingegaard (Visma Lease a bike) as they passed in front of him. He was taken into police custody for aggravated assault and will be questioned this Sunday. He was unable to be questioned the day before, as he was waiting to be sobered up.


    The image was captured by the television cameras following the two champions and quickly made the rounds on social networks, outraging many internet users. The CPA, the riders' union, announced via its president, Adam Hamsem, that it would be taking legal action against the person responsible for this gesture. At the finish, Vingegaard, the two-time defending champion, said he did not "understand those who go to a bike race to throw chips".


    Stopped by a policeman who saw the scene


    Alexis shares his incomprehension, realising after the riders had passed that he had immortalised the moment in a series of photos. Before seeing the outrage on social networks.


    "He was with a group of very nice friends, cycling fans like us. We got to know each other well, talked about everything, cycling, Brittany and played shuffleboard," says the young man. But it was a very drunken afternoon. According to Alexis, a nearby policeman who saw the scene intervened immediately after the gesture against the Visma leader. Bob on his head, shirtless and flying the flag for Brittany, all he saw were these two riders.


    "He pushed him off the road in a rather curt manner and a police car arrived behind the barriers to pick him up less than five minutes later", continued the witness, who "doesn't understand why he did it". According to our information, he has been taken into custody. When contacted, the Tour's organiser, ASO, said it would not be pressing charges.


    In his opinion, alcohol could have been the main reason for this behaviour, which could have had major consequences for the riders. "It didn't seem premeditated. After the riders had passed, his friends were surprised. It wasn't their first Tour, obviously, but it was the first time he'd done something stupid like that. The group of friends wondered how they were going to get their misbehaving friend back.


    In the meantime, Alexis and his two friends, who were impressed by Pogacar's performance, had to return to the Rennes region (Ille-et-Vilaine), where the disrespectful spectator was also from. "We're cyclotourists, and we've been able to climb a few passes in the Pyrenees over the last few days, so it's been fun," he concludes. More fun than witnessing this unfortunate gesture.

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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332

    I know it's hard to believe, but he's human

    Yes, yes. But does he know that?

  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104

    I don't think he will ride it if only because I'd guess the team want to offer something to those climbing super domestiques but if he did enter I'd have him favourite.

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104

    I think that's a good point. I haven't checked the route but the forecast for Avignon (picked as a random place inland in South of France) is 39 degrees by the end of the week. That could have an impact on anyone - we saw Cav suffer on the first day. Domestiques and staff to pass up water and ice are going to be important.

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143
    edited July 15

    I looked at the weather for Jausiers on Friday and it looked quite benign.

    Edit: only on Google, all other sources say 30ish

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463

    Is he not riding the Worlds? Feels like the course is perfect for him.

  • hanshotfirst
    hanshotfirst Posts: 400

    Would agree with you 100% about him not doing the Vuelta, but is he not on record saying that Worlds is one of his main goals for the season?

  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473

    Isn't it a guarantee he will ride the Olympics and Worlds? Would that even leave room for the Vuelta in terms of recovery?

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143

    Two weeks between TdF and Olympics. Two weeks between the Olympics and the Vuelta. Three weeks between the Vuelta and the Worlds. Two weeks between Worlds and Lombardia.

    Who needs recovery?

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Olympics come round every 4 years .. seasons like this ?

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  • focuszing723
    focuszing723 Posts: 8,149

    Yes, I think that gives enough time for cycling to prepare and cope with The Pog.

  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    Arrieta

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited July 15

    He rode 3 GT a year for multiple years finishing top 15 in all of them iirc ....or something like that

    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Worlds is more realistic.

    If I was Pog I would worry 3 GTs at the sharp end back-to-back would screw me over for the rest of my career

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,143

    I don't think there's any chance after he's done the week that is about to hit him he'll be considering another GT this year fwiw.