2024 Election thread
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Depending on which MRP you look at, the LibDems might be breathing down Trott's neck, so I guess you need all the help you can get π
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Would be so funny if they lost the seat.
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This is where the label 'Fib Dums' seems to be quite true as both the polls I looked at have them in third place behind Labour, but their election material claims that 'Labour can't win here'. So they can't either π
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I know. The Tories are the last bastions of honesty and integrity in UK politics.
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Talking of fibs, you persuaded your daughter it wasn't worth voting when the best prediction for the Tories is a lean hold.
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It's all in a good cause though.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
There are also a few polls showing the Lib Dems could be the best tactical vote for ABC voters. That could work in the Tories' favour with no clear tactical vote for them to get behind.
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If we posted this on twitter, would we be "journalists" and would we be breaking the law?
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The recommendation appears to be 'campaign elsewhere as you're wasting your time here, lefties'. Which is along the lines of what I said to a rather optimistic Labour canvasser last week π
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Tory vote share has dropped from 61% in 2019 to (at best) around 37% in the polls. I don't think they're wasting their time, especially if the Labour and Lib Dem votes consolidate to one or the other.
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There are a lot more than two MRP seat predictions. Quite a lot of variation due to all the new marginals.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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if the tories persist in empowering tax and spend idiots, the crooked, liars, nutbags, and incompetents, it'll be interesting to see if the lib dems can keep gaining seats next time around (though they'll need to find themselves a more serious leader)
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Had conversation with a good friend and LD campaigner about this last time round. In her constiuency LDs are the clear tactical vote for lefties, but graphics were way off (underplaying Lab & Greens and ignoring recent shifts). Anti-tories there tend to be highly educated tofu-eating wokerati*, so misrepresenting data doesn't do LDs any favours. Her response was that this crap comes down from central office.
*possibly me
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We shall see tomorrow...let's hope my two votes count π
Am assuming that you live somewhere that will vote for a hat stand if it has a red rosette on it?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Is there any other sort of anti-Tory? If you spend a lot of time in Cake Stop it can be hard to see otherwise π
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I think he's going for the Boris approach, acting like the affable fool who'll try all sorts of stunts worked for him.
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I've just been moved into a different constituency due to boundary changes. The current majority is only 2000 over the Conservatives, prior to that it was 8000 and 5000 (against the thick as mince Tory candidate who is now in the Welsh Senedd), 2010 Lib Dems were second by less than 2000. It's been Labour since it was created in 1983 but the majority has varied from 1650 to 13500 so it's not quite voting for a dog with a red rosette territory. My previous constituency was quite similar but was Conservative for the first election after it was formed in 1983. Quite surprising considering it represents a large former steel town that you would think would be rock solid red.
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Nonsense! You'll be telling us that we cannot rely on stereotypes next. π
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You've been a good soldier
You can rest now.
βNew York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
The resistance operation starts tomorrow...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Well at least you aren't in ostrich mode.
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Also I am cheered by what I have learned from Cake Stop, namely that you can just disregard any democratic outcomes that you don't like π
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Is this another one of your things that "some people on here" say but you can never find any actual examples?
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Good luck ignoring Government policy for the next 5 years. I think you'll find the best you can do is moan about it safe in the knowledge that you didn't vote for it.
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There are still Brexit deniers around, plus several past claims that the result was invalid for a number of 'reasons', such as it the result down to lies by the leave campaign, people were too thick to understand the issues or it should have required a 2/3 majority. That sort of thing. But I prefer not to point fingers.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I can mitigate.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Like I said: no actual examples, just "some people".
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Which is surprising given he has been about his partyβs behaviour for the last few years.π
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Was just looking at Electoral Calculus's profile of my constituency. There's a demographics section - I appear to be almost exactly typical for the constituency (bar Leave voting tendency). Out of curiosity I also looked up Sevenoaks and under the demographics section it basically just says Stevo.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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well, there's also the disenfranchisement of millions and the fact that the 'deal' that bore no resemblance to the brexiters' promises was never put to the electorate
clearly you don't like free speech, tough shit
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