2024 Election thread
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Was in Dover the other week. The lorry queue is insane. Literally miles of them parked up on the hard shoulder with zero facilities.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Haha, I'm not even going to go to the effort of linking Andrew Lilico's DT piece saying that Labour's stance during the covid epidemic disqualifies Starmer from being PM. Obviously the Tories being actually in government with an 80-seat majority absolves them of all blame for everything. Certifiably nuts (though we probably already knew that).
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
We're in the territory that 100 seats for the Tories will be spun as a "disappointing night for Starmer"
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Here's the link to the poll and a zoomable map. 34k people polled.
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https://thecritic.co.uk/imagine-theres-no-labour/
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Having watched 1992 unfold I still think it will be a lot more balanced. I think tooany people answering labour on these polls are just disaffected Tories and they are less likely to vote at all.
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Surprised to see blue in Scotland
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I understand the scepticism, but I don't see anything other than a landslide, possibly one that dwarfs 1997. I accept there is always a chance a significant percentage abstain or vote Tory once they get in the booth and it ends up being closer than polls suggest, but I would be surprised.
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Farmers and land owners.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I think 100 seats will be a good result for the Tories. I think the relationship between vote share and seat share could end up making FPTP look pretty daft though.
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I'd tend to agree it may well be that kind of ballpark. Yes, think there will be lots of renewed discussion of FPTP after this election.
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Hope you are right about fptp.
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Coco has resurfaced. Looks like he needs to lay off the wine.
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Literally never been this excited for an election.
Can barely wait for Friday morning.
I really really hope the Tories get utterly humiliated.
Quite comfortably the worst decade of governance for Britain for 90-100 years.
And all done with utter contempt for anything other than the Conservative Party. Done with disgrace. Done with a nasty, divisive, ugly edge. Claiming to represent people they have actively hurt. Destructive. Costly.
They deserve to have this wretched decade hung around their fucking necks and be pilloried till they all find the grace to fuck off and hide - an unlikely scenario as grace and good sense had been lacking for so so so long,
Fuck them.
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hear, hear
i ordered an extra case of bubbly to help celebrate the fuckers getting obliterated
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Come on now. Tell us what you really think. 😆
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Disappointed to see I’m in Yorkshire blue territory, next door to Rishiville. Fairly close according to polling, numbers heading to ReBrexitKip and LDs will decided.
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I concur with you RC about the Tories, but this makes me apprehensive not excited. There will be short term relief when we get grown ups in charge, but it is not good for so many people to be voting "anyone but Conservative". This concerns me for stability later as people lurch towards too good to be true solutions that are sucked into the vacuum that remains.
I fear this will be exacerbated by the lack of any meaningful challenge to the governing party, other than from within it. I accept that Labour are less prone to chopping off the head than the Tories, but they are not immune to policy decisions that placate foaming lunatics. We have had this situation now for nearly 5 years and it has been disastrous and we need more than a couple of years off.
There is of course no better option, but this is no 1997 moment because there is no excitement or anticipation. Just fatigue. Not good.
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Looking at a few blue constituencies round here, there's a chance it may understate the effect of tactical voting at least in some areas.
Sutton and Cheam was 50% Con, 33% LD, 14% Lab last time. It seems unlikely this time to be 27% Con, 26% LD and 25% Lab.
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we can get on with slating the next government, i'm expecting less corruption and a bit more competence, but it's a low bar they've been set
starmer has proven to have a clear authoritarian/repressive streak, well before entering politics, it'll be interesting to see whether he reverses the trend of the last few years, or continues the drift away from individual rights and freedom
my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
Not sure dancing on the grave is warranted. It's a loss to UK politics that a major party has self-destructed so completely. I think Labour will have a very short window to demonstrate that they are doing something useful before people will lose what little patience they have left and that will only help dregs like Farage.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition1 -
Her timing is, as ever, impeccable.
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How will they learn that that kind of governance is not tolerable if it’s not through electoral annihilation?!
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Be even funnier if they start moaning about how fptp makes it unfair.
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This...
We need to learn that political gravity applies to everyone in the country not just female leaders of small parties.
That and we need change - any change. Even if all the voices in Stevo's head turn out to be right I simply cannot believe that things can be run worse
We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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If parties like Reform appear to offer a route to wider support for the Tories, they are never going to learn that lesson, they will just assume it was the policies rather than the lies and corruption and chase the Reform support.
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