LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!
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"Leave the ECHR to stop the boats."
It's my believe that the boats are being used as an excuse to leave the ECHR. That's the real goal.
This will impact the HR of the UK.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Well, that, and trying to tarnish all immigrants with the 'illegal' epithet: they want to create a climate where their overall economic benefit to Treasury coffers is ignored (or at least ignored by enough people to vote them back into office).
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Might explain a lot.
As for Braverman, everything she writes or says comes across as ‘Sunak finally plucked up the nerve to fire me so I’m going to criticise him at every chance’. As long as the Party has a chunk of MPs like her they’re never going to fix the damage.
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So Street says moderate Conservatism is how they nearly won the West Midlands, the likes of Cruella see this as a sign they need to move further to the right. They really deserve to be consigned to the history books.
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Is Braverman really delusional enough to think that the reason they lost seats all over the place is because they haven’t gone far enough right in their policies? Everything seems to be saying the way to win back voters is to be more moderate. After the election it may well be that it is the likes of her in very safe, right-wing seats are the only survivors which wouldn’t be great for the Party getting back on track.
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You are applying logic to an illogical person.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
No, she isn't. It is now an ideological fight for the control of the Tory party. The right wing nut faction know they are never going to win an election but I don't think they care. The likes of Braverman are only interested in their own ego's being filfilled. She knows in a sensible, moderate party, she has zero chance of power, but in a loony bin she is head nurse.
There is still a fundamental issue that no Tory will acknowledge, Brexit killed their party. It pushed them down a path towards populism, every intelligent, centrist MP was sacrificed at it's alter, and the party was largely taken over by talentless, lying, immoral narcissists. They will never admit this though and still seem hellbent on lurching to the right.
They better prepare themselves for opposition govt. for quite some time!
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I must admit I quite like the idea of Tory MPs being outnumbered by LibDems, even if the national invisibility of the LibDems (for whatever reason) makes this seem unlikely, despite their good showing in the local elections. But if it did happen, it might refocus Tory minds, too many of which have veered off into NF fringes.
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I think this is they key to it, how the moderates react to the GE result. Braverman et al clearly want a drubbing as they think this gives them the leverage to takeover the party. The one nation Tories (the few that are left), have to start planning for this now. There is going to be a massive bun fight after they lose the election and the moderates need their heads screwed on to take on the lunatic fringe.
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I don’t know why they think the right of the party would take over. They’re the lot who are in marginal seats
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Make Holes Deeper Again.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Maybe because the press continually gives them exposure out of all proportion to their electoral popularity. That's part of the reason why we ended up with Brexshit.
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Braverman has a 26,000 majority, so does Truss. Badenoch 27.5k, Kwarteng over 18k, Rees-Mogg just under 15k. Are you sure?
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Braverman, Patel, John Hayes, Miriam Cates, Danny Kruger etc. will likely keep their seats and are all people who should be kept well away from power. People like Gove and Badenoch will turn whichever way the wind blows and you can easily see a party well and truly disappearing down the rabbit hole after a landslide, particularly with a small parliamentary party that doesn't have the numbers to take them on.
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Swallows, not swans.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Correct. A few swallows makes for a pleasant summer.
(©️ Coupling TV show.)
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Cones Hotline vibes, but with added culture wars seasoning:
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That's fine if it's a 10 storey office block (aside from the fact that nobody cares), but a bit inconvenient if it's a small corner shop and they have to install 2 toilets out back.
Fortunately, there isn't much chance of them managing to update the building regs in the next 8 months so they may as well offer to replace all stairs with teleport pods.
Speaking to LBC’s Nick Ferrari at Breakfast, asked what the Government is looking for, Ms Badenoch said: “We are looking for examples where a public institution is either issuing guidance or has a policy that is not in accordance with the equality act when it comes to single-sex spaces.
Ah, so there isnt an actual problem, but they are looking for one, marvellous.
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Meh, they have a plan - just stick with them as it is working. I know this as it has replaced ‘we got Brexit done’ and ‘world leading vaccine’ as the only thing Tory spokespeople can trot out in interviews.
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Straight out of the Trump playbook: make voting as difficult as possible. And he overlooks the fact that it's mostly oldies who vote Tory, and mostly oldies who need postal votes. We mightn't like the way they vote, but they must have every opportunity to vote, like everyone else.
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Haha. Nice timing at the end... they keep you waiting, wondering what the last two words will be. I suspect you'll all know the two.
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Its going to be a difficult line for the Tories to take considering the PM used a postal vote to vote in the mayoral election.
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Sorry who is Brendan Clarke-smith and why do should we listen to him?
Is it just a free for all for all backbenchers to say something stupid enough they garner some attention?
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He's been on the nuttier and stupider side of the Tory Party, so probably an idea that'll be floating round amongst the Braverman wing.
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Assume he hasn't said why he wants rid of postal voting?
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I guess "Because Trump is trying to do that in the US (apart from when postal voting helps Trump)" probably doesn't look great when written down. If he had two braincells, he might cite voter fraud, even if it is vanishingly small and insignificant compared with how many people this would disenfranchise.
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