2024 Election thread
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Ha, a well-spotted parallel. The only difference is that Major didn't have the chutzpah to claim that his plan was working.
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Does kinda make you wonder where Kuenssberg gets her talking points from.
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Maybe we'll get a few Tory MPs joining CS for the gardening thread, as a lot of them are going to have time on their hands, and will want to take their minds off politics.
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Ah, how about "Well, given that some people said we were going to lose 500 seats or more, only 474 losses shows that the plan is working!" as the message to push?
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I liked the moment when Britain First were booing Sadiq Khan someone shouted "you lost to Count Binface" at them.
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I do quite like John Harris's writing in the Graun. He has a habit of talking to normalish people and teasing out nuance. The bottom line is there's no great enthusiasm for Starmer, but an overwhelming enthusiasm to send the Tories packing. Perhaps they might be allowed back if someone vaguely sensible like Andy Street got a look in, but that seems unlikely without a seismic shift in how the Conservative Party deals with the legacy of Johnson, Truss and Sunak.
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Certainly reflects my position
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Assuming Starmer gets in, I'm pretty sure that all us accused 'lefties' will be berating Starmer and team when they screw things up, although it's going to take a while to clear up the vomit left by this shower of drunk, adolescent politicians trashing the house when the grown-ups have trusted them to look after it.
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The impending defeat is dawning on them but I suspect their approach to fixing it is the Braverman model of going further right.
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The state of the papers is a joke.
Who looks at the local elections and the polls and comes to this conclusion.
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It's referring to the NEV modelling by Michael Thrasher. It's got a fairly good track record but from what I've read, there's a bit of cherry picking going on by people re-posting this as a hung parliament being the likely result.
It would seem to play well for Labour, though, encouraging people not to think of it as a done deal.
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The headline is that Rishi Sunak has claimed it.
That can be true, even if what he's claimed is not true (or is very unlikely)
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Oh come on. The old literalist defence. If he said Ukraine was actually fighting the USA would they report that too? Nonsense.
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Also, the fact that Sunak seems to be taking that as a good result shows just how bad it is.
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If he thinks that's up for offer he should go for an election now before it gets worse and labour gets a majority
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Another analogy. He is sitting at the blackjack table having lost all his stake and is currently thinking "If I max out my credit card I'll come out on top. It'll turn around".
Or, the captain of the Titanic asking if anyone wants ice in their drinks. 🤣
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Have you read the details behind the claim or are you just dismissing it? I'd agree it seems unlikely as a casual observer, but Thrasher has a pretty strong record. There are reasons to explain where the next GE might differ from this NEV, but not to just dismiss it out of hand, regardless of whether Sunak is misrepresenting it.
Thread here.
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Because there were no elections in Scotland, this one assumes no change there from last time. So that makes it bollocks basically.
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Some fantastic random lines of best fit through that data.
Ultimately if Starmer wins a majority it'll be a pretty historic turnaround from the previous election. By and large I feel like the political story should be Conservatives poo themselves publicly after winning a massive majority. Its utterly hilarious that they've done so badly, or it would be if government wasn't actually serious business.
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It explains why the next GE result may be different and I think the hung parliament is unlikely, but everyone thought it was unlikely in 2010. I don't think that makes it bollox - it means that the results need to be read in that context. The context is ignored in the headline but this is newspaper front pages not peer-reviewed academia.
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“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Ouses and greenbelt thread. 😁
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Or is it subtle trolling?
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There are threads on here I've never looked at. That's one
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
That thread is 90% me saying how ludicrous house prices are, you have to build more, and everyone else saying it's fine just commute from the outer hebredies - why would you want to live near where you work anyway?
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Literally no-one has said that, I think there's a significant consensus that you have to build more. Most people are suggesting that just building more won't fix the issue. Maybe you'd wouldn't have to keep 'making your point if you actually read what people are saying in their replies?
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