2024 Election thread
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tbf I’m actually being taxed more after the budget.
at least the people on a mere £16k a year get smacked the hardest 🙄🙄
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I mean, when you try to build in existing urban areas people complain that existing services will be overwhelmed so these sorts of developments that will come with schools, medical centres, local shops, play reas etc. and transport links are the best way to get a sustainable development yet they are less popular. The land is normally privately owned farmland unless it is Brownfield like ex-MOD so it isn't like it is available for the benefit of the public. I really want to know what these people think the solution is (presumably 'stopping immigrants')
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It is 26000 homes over 26 years. So it is a grand plan to increase the overall housing stock by about 20%. Seeing as it was only founded in 1967, this represents a slight increase in the existing rate if growth.
Less than half are proposed for green field sites. Unlike substantially the entire of what is currently Milton Keynes was in 1966.
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Non-dom status now magically not a good idea, apparently.
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Now the PMs wife has stopped claiming it, he doesn't mind.
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Strange coincidence that. 😉
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See also Brexit thread, Irony thread, Labour & Tory threads.
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This doesn't seem like quite the right tone if she wants to appear neutral. Sounds like something from a Tory spun doctor. Maybe she doesn't care.
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Meh. All interviewers have to play devil's advocate.
I'd guess they all have a chat beforehand saying "this isn't my personal opinions" and interviewees understand.
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Not so much the interview as the tone of the tweet... there would have been better ways to phrase that that would have given less ammunition to those who feel she isn't even-handed in her criticism.
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One minor success the tories have had is framing the election in the same way as 2010. AKA the only way is austerity.
Because that worked so well the last 15 years.
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To be fair they decided to go away from Austerity and COVID happened!
I can't see many people feeling that austerity has been either successful, or wanting more of the past 15 years.
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Pointless turning on the taps when your water tank is empty and all the reservoirs have run dry as nothing is going to come out. To be fair that was also the position when austerity started, I know you'll disagree and argue they should have borrowed to spend but I still don't think that was a realistic in the financial situation at the time.
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Sure, but just look at the enthusiasm for Starmer.
Currently neither party look like they are able to generate any real widespread support, just a few diehards on each side, and a widespread feeling that Labour might be a little less shit.
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I suspect that level of cynicism has always been there but the number of General Elections plus the shambles of the Brexit Referendum and subsequent fall out has made it even worse. The age of social media isn't helping either. I don't understand why Labour haven't taken the line of "these are the things we are really keen to do but we need to do a very thorough review of the actual numbers as we aren't convinced by the Tories' figures for money available and need to evaluate the mess they are leaving behind". Make it clear now that they are being left with a financial mess to clear up and get ahead of when the Tories try to pin it on them when they have to ditch things or undo the recent tax'cuts'.
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Lee Anderson joins party of common sense and becomes first Reform MP 😆
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Fairly sure there wasn't much enthusiasm for Blair in '97. I think a lot of the retrospectives make it look like it was but I think I remember some commentary for the time saying it was as much relief as much else.
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Democracy at its finest.
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He had a few more policies prior to the election, but maybe Starmer will develop some by time an eletion is announced. There are parallels in that they both need to convince the electorate they no longer represent the harder left of their predecessors. Blair inherited a far better economy in what was, from memory, a more peaceful time.
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I'd guess they feel like that message is too difficult to get across.
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30p will henceforth be known as 3Party.
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Smith did most of the heavy lifting for Blair's win. It would be interesting if we could have had a sliding doors view of where the country went had he survived to become PM. I've read something suggesting we'd have never have got involved in Iraq with him as PM.
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He can take a seat in the corner of the commons next to George Galloway.
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That's how I remember it too. Starmer is in a hard position right now. Although continually being asked about policies it would be stupid to announce them prior to the election being called as the tories could simply nick any decent sounding ones as current policy.
Everything is fair game once the election is under way but inconsequential until then.
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If the Conservatives have taken the savings from scrapping non-dom (that they previously said didn't exist) and used them to pay for a cut in NI, then the logical thing to do would be to reverse that cut. But why would they give such an easy attack line to the Conservatives?
Conservative policy is now to cut NI completely, so interesting to see if they say how they will fund that in detail.
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"Policy"
At the moment, they're just shouting out words at random in the hope that anything stops the fall.
One part of the party is currently attacking the other for losing the guy who has now been kicked out of two political parties.
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I've posted one Twitter link for a quote from 1997 about Blair that could almost word-for-word be what papers are writing about Starmer now. Can't find it now, but the resemblance is uncanny.
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