2024 Election thread
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I mean, rationally, is that not why people will pay the price? Their quality is just different to yours.
Fair point. Like I said, having lived in London for years, I never really understood the desire to pay ridiculous prices for bog standard properties. I accept that many others are happy to do so though.
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If you are in the top 1% and still have time to post on here throughout the day then you should seriously consider moaning less 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Genuine question here but if we're saying that under 35s are struggling to afford housing in London (I don't dispute that by the way) who is actually buying the housing to create the demand? I can't see there being an influx of older working people to the city, if anything I always thought the tendancy was to move further out. Yet someone is obviously buying them or there'd be a surfeit of available houses as older home owners die or move out of the city to realise their assets and the prices would drop.
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Well now...
... The issue in Canada for decades has been foreign property investment. Same in NZ I am lead to believe....
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Right. So we are back to my original solution, cut prices by 50%*. Any takers?
Housebuilding can be part of the solution as supply and demand would lead to a 50%* cut in Ricktopia.
*Random figure.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Both admirable aims 🙂 How would you do it?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Sorry, what do you mean by 'cut prices'? Who? Vendors? Voluntarily?
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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No one can deny the trend. But why do you think there shouldn't be one? Because the boomers got lucky? The generation before certainly didn't,.compared to the previous one.
On the flip side, you have the internet, more than 3 TV channels, and you can travel far more cheaply. You will live longer. Potentially you will be healthier for much, much longer. You don't have to eat corned beef and pig fat ice-cream. Coffee isn't always instant and milk doesn't come in powdered form. Fewer people smoke on your behalf. Bernard Manning is dead. Downtube shifters are no longer a thing.
Some things are better. Some not.
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A 50 percent cut across the board would be great for me, all other things remaining the same.
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Much like devaluing sterling. Government mandated across the board.
I'm just being facetious though as it's never going to happen. I can't see more than a 10% reduction so unaffordable housing is going to remain unaffordable.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I mean, if that's your argument, that there have been some technological improvements and globalisation has improved our food, then I think you'll struggle to hold back the anger about the situation.
This is why voting is so clearly drawn down generational lines. The correlation is almost linear.
This election is will basically be an election between working age people and pensioners, with a second minor axis of educated and not educated.
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Pivot.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Two things: there are just not enough homes, regardless of cost. Secondly, this is not just about people's ability to get a mortgage.
The first can be addressed by an overhaul of both national planning policy and providing local authorities with the funds to operate skilled and effective planning teams.
The biggest shortage is at the bottom of the scale with social housing and a big expansion in this sector would massively reduce the burden of housing benefit. There are plenty of good exemplars, just nowhere near the required quantity.
The second will be partly addressed by the first , but as seems to have been recognised belatedly, shorthold tenancy needs to be replaced with something less temporary.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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He does that.
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This is just defeatist not-my-problem bollox.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Your comment reads as if you are trying to speedrun a game of boomer bingo FA
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Yes, it will be along those lines. Objectively, I'm right though, and I'm not trying to get elected. You are in a generation that's pretty lucky overall but not quite as lucky as the Boomers.
Housing is expensive. Food is cheap. Travel (including car ownership) is cheaper than it was in the 70s. This isn't just about technology, it's a like for like benefit of globalisation.
The planet itself is fucked mind you. Which is probably more important than bacon sandwiches or rental costs in St Alban's.
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Corned beef is quite tasty and I don't see why pork fat is so much worse than dairy fat.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Supposing such a thing were possible - it's nothing like devaluing currency - that might have one or two unpleasant side effects. Where are you planning the collective farms?
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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This might be a minority view.
Do you remember Lyons vanilla?
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I find the technological development argument a funny one, as most, if not all of them, occurred long before under 35s were grown up and a lot of them before they were born. Are they supposed to be grateful for something that happened before they was born? When is the cutoff for gratefulness. Do they need to be grateful for the invention of the steam engine too, and thank their lucky stars the National Government of the 30s eventually banned child labour? Should they accept their lot because in the 1665, conditions were so awful in London the plague obliterated 1 in 4 Londoners?
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What happens to voting in 10 years when Labour also haven't been able to fix the issue? I know it's defeatist and I'm not suggesting there shouldn't be an effort, I've given my thoughts on what can be done although I suspect the best we can do is ease the problem slightly but I'm at a loss on how it gets properly resolved in the short to medium term. I just don't see how you build the amount of homes needed to get to a position where supply is so high the cost drops to a similar level to where it was in the 70s or 80s. Maybe with industrial scale modern prefabs but the companies that were trying to do that have been going bust.
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I'm not defeated cos it's not my problem. 😎
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
A change of subject, if you prefer.
FWIW the tories are going to lose the next election not because they pander to boomers but because of 14 years of bad governance. I'm a boomer and I've been pissed of by them since Cameron announced the bloody referendum.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I'm not going to defend a facetious point. 🤣
It's merely an illustration that Rick's dream ain't gonna happen.
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Won’t that just smack the beleaguered generation with negative equity to increase their woes?
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Think you have lost track of quite how much technology has changed in your lifetime. That's not my argument in any case.
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Yes. Rick's not thought this through properly.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
