Rim depth
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As I alluded to before, can any of us say we notice a clear and obvious performance enhancement across most of the wheelsets we use, or is it really just a bit of a difference in feel and aesthetics that largely determines what we ride/enjoy?
I suspect that tyre choice/width/pressure plays much more of a role than the rim depth, unless you are focussing on a very specific discipline like TT or hill climb.0 -
You notice it a little for sureMidlandsGrimpeur2 said:As I alluded to before, can any of us say we notice a clear and obvious performance enhancement across most of the wheelsets we use, or is it really just a bit of a difference in feel and aesthetics that largely determines what we ride/enjoy?
I suspect that tyre choice/width/pressure plays much more of a role than the rim depth, unless you are focussing on a very specific discipline like TT or hill climb.0 -
Are you suggesting this is going to end in a hail of gunfire?ugo.santalucia said:
It’s the way it works with old folks… you get the good advice, together with the abuse… have you seen Gran Torino?
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Ha!MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:... unless you are focussing on a very specific discipline like TT or hill climb.
At the National, I decided to use the heavy rear wheel with the heavy tyres, essentially because I wanted to avoid a puncture on the way to the start, which was a few miles from HQ and even further from our accommodation. I thought actually making it to the finish line was the most important outcome of the day.
As it happened, I did better than on my previous two Nationals, where I was riding much lighter wheels.
A couple of weeks earlier, I won my only (club) hill climb, as I showed up on my winter bike...
So, no... wheels make no practical difference, within reason, I would say most equipment makes no practical difference.
Even in TT, people obsess about the bike, but it's not the TT bike that is fast, it's that a good setup allows you to ride in a very aerodynamic position, which is very difficult to achieve on a road bike or with a bad set up. For example, on my road bike, I can hold a fully tucked position for 2 minutes, before my arms hurt too much and I need to reposition them... I need a bit longer than that if I want to go fasterleft the forum March 20230 -
That is unlikely...Munsford0 said:
I was referring to the way Clint Eastwood dispenses good advice with the young fella...
We were always treated like that... my LBS when I was in my teens, was run by a grumpy man with a lacklustre racing career who would make you feel totally worthless about your cycling ability, before doing some free work on your bike or offering you a real bargain on a used one.
That is very different from the experience you get these days, when you are bigged-up and sweet talked into buying the latest 6 grand wonder to make good of those incredible guns you've gotleft the forum March 20230 -
I'm not going to go into my own N countsecretsam said:
No, it's not my only bike - I'm a tragic 'all the gear' type. Currently n=5, although one is for sale (or will be, soon)
Presumably one of your other bikes has deep wheels then, or not?
I have an aero bike with 70/60 (It used to run 50/50), and my lighter weight climber runs 30/30, for me that is a good combination.
I'm a tad under 70kg, and have had some entertaining days on the aero bike with gusting cross winds.
50s front and back could well be a less 'thrilling' experience though.
If I just had the one bike, 50/50 is what I would have gone for.
Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
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do 50mm f&r or 60mm f&r like that MF bloke ssid 3 pages sgo ya?
okey dokey..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Nah, all shallow, 25mm is a deep as it goes.daniel_b said:
Presumably one of your other bikes has deep wheels then, or not?
Question for @ugo.santalucia and other wheelbuilders out there - can one get wheels with (decent) carbon rims built to spec? Just curious, most of what you see is pre-built and I'm always curious about the hub quality.
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Yes, cycle clinic and most independent wheelbuilders will do that.secretsam said:
Nah, all shallow, 25mm is a deep as it goes.
Question for @ugo.santalucia and other wheelbuilders out there - can one get wheels with (decent) carbon rims built to spec? Just curious, most of what you see is pre-built and I'm always curious about the hub quality.
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50/50 it is thensecretsam said:
Nah, all shallow, 25mm is a deep as it goes.
Question for @ugo.santalucia and other wheelbuilders out there - can one get wheels with (decent) carbon rims built to spec? Just curious, most of what you see is pre-built and I'm always curious about the hub quality.
I have a set from cycle clinic, and most recently a lovely light set from Mark @ Spokesman.
Never dealt with them before, but a thread on here (I think) spoke highly of him, so dropped him a line, and went from there.
30mm rims, clincher, Tune hubs I specced, 1270g with rim tape.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
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Nice, drop me a line with your address and I will come to borrow them for the National… 😁daniel_b said:
50/50 it is then
I have a set from cycle clinic, and most recently a lovely light set from Mark @ Spokesman.
Never dealt with them before, but a thread on here (I think) spoke highly of him, so dropped him a line, and went from there.
30mm rims, clincher, Tune hubs I specced, 1270g with rim tape.
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Nice, drop me a line with your address and I will come to borrow them for the National… 😁
But surely it’s not about the bike… “wheels make no practical difference, within reason, I would say most equipment makes no practical difference.”1 -
Nice, drop me a line with your address and I will come to borrow them for the National… 😁andyrr said:
But surely it’s not about the bike… “wheels make no practical difference, within reason, I would say most equipment makes no practical difference.”
That is also true…
There is a placebo effect, which might be worth half a second or so…
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Yes, I had some rims from Light Bicycle in China built up by my LBS (Tune Hubs)secretsam said:
Nah, all shallow, 25mm is a deep as it goes.
Question for @ugo.santalucia and other wheelbuilders out there - can one get wheels with (decent) carbon rims built to spec? Just curious, most of what you see is pre-built and I'm always curious about the hub quality.1
