Is Kohl right? You cannot win the TDF without doping?

donrhummy
donrhummy Posts: 2,329
edited October 2010 in Pro race
Kohl claims you cannot win the tour de france without doping. Is he right?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kohl-no ... out-doping


EDIT: Sorry, just saw this thread too: http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12733929 (but it doesn't have a poll)

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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,712
    Surely if everyone didnt dope, it would be slower but someone would still win ?
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  • Radioactiveman
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    is kohl austrian for co ck?
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12733929
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  • pedro118118
    pedro118118 Posts: 1,102
    @jimmy - you're dead right. Chicken and egg scenario here isn't it, as Kohl's opinion is based on a doped peleton. Of course, its always going to be difficult for a clean rider to win amongst a doped peleton, but the point is we need to create a level playing field.
  • psittacosis
    psittacosis Posts: 97
    True, but with good anti-doping it may one day be possible
    And sanctions, i.e long bans and harsh fines.
    hit the dopers in the pocket.
  • salsarider79
    salsarider79 Posts: 828
    Having all the speculations about Contador at the moment....well, I was hoping my favourite sport was getting cleaner and real men, the ones who spent all year riding, training, eating all the right foods, riding even in the cold and the wet, riding up stupid steep climbs, day in day out were the ones winning.
    Now, it feels like the ones who spent most time in a hospital bed getting the right combonation of blood and *insert lastest blood doping chemical here* just right and maybe having a quick spin on a turbo trainer the weekend before the racing.

    Really starting to get disappointed with these professionals. I wish they would all ride clean. Maybe it's just Kohl trying to justify his actions, rather than helping to change anything. Tawt.
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 17,204
    salsarider79 wrote:
    Having all the speculations about Contador at the moment....well, I was hoping my favourite sport was getting cleaner and real men, the ones who spent all year riding, training, eating all the right foods, riding even in the cold and the wet, riding up stupid steep climbs, day in day out were the ones winning.
    Now, it feels like the ones who spent most time in a hospital bed getting the right combonation of blood and *insert lastest blood doping chemical here* just right and maybe having a quick spin on a turbo trainer the weekend before the racing.

    Really starting to get disappointed with these professionals. I wish they would all ride clean. Maybe it's just Kohl trying to justify his actions, rather than helping to change anything. Tawt.

    I think thats simplistic

    the guys cheating are doing the hours or the correct amount of hours

    back in the day doing off season steroids allows you to train more! I'm sure training loads can be increased with a good regime of testosterone
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