Is Kohl right? You cannot win the TDF without doping?

donrhummy

Kohl claims you cannot win the tour de france without doping. Is he right?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/kohl-no ... out-doping


EDIT: Sorry, just saw this thread too: http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12733929 (but it doesn't have a poll)

jimmythecuckoo

Surely if everyone didnt dope, it would be slower but someone would still win ?

Radioactiveman

is kohl austrian for co ck?

frenchfighter

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtop ... t=12733929

pedro118118

@jimmy - you're dead right. Chicken and egg scenario here isn't it, as Kohl's opinion is based on a doped peleton. Of course, its always going to be difficult for a clean rider to win amongst a doped peleton, but the point is we need to create a level playing field.

psittacosis

True, but with good anti-doping it may one day be possible

And sanctions, i.e long bans and harsh fines.
hit the dopers in the pocket.

salsarider79

Having all the speculations about Contador at the moment....well, I was hoping my favourite sport was getting cleaner and real men, the ones who spent all year riding, training, eating all the right foods, riding even in the cold and the wet, riding up stupid steep climbs, day in day out were the ones winning.
Now, it feels like the ones who spent most time in a hospital bed getting the right combonation of blood and *insert lastest blood doping chemical here* just right and maybe having a quick spin on a turbo trainer the weekend before the racing.

Really starting to get disappointed with these professionals. I wish they would all ride clean. Maybe it's just Kohl trying to justify his actions, rather than helping to change anything. Tawt.

mididoctors

salsarider79 wrote:

Having all the speculations about Contador at the moment....well, I was hoping my favourite sport was getting cleaner and real men, the ones who spent all year riding, training, eating all the right foods, riding even in the cold and the wet, riding up stupid steep climbs, day in day out were the ones winning.
Now, it feels like the ones who spent most time in a hospital bed getting the right combonation of blood and *insert lastest blood doping chemical here* just right and maybe having a quick spin on a turbo trainer the weekend before the racing.

Really starting to get disappointed with these professionals. I wish they would all ride clean. Maybe it's just Kohl trying to justify his actions, rather than helping to change anything. Tawt.

I think thats simplistic

the guys cheating are doing the hours or the correct amount of hours

back in the day doing off season steroids allows you to train more! I'm sure training loads can be increased with a good regime of testosterone