muddy bike

tv · November 2008

whats the best thing to use to clean all the mud off your bike? just water? i herd ther was a special liquid or is this just a gimik!?

BorisSpencer · November 2008

Muc Off, or Fenwicks FS1 (diluted with nine parts water to make FS10).
Go for the one you prefer the smell of. I prefer the Fenwicks.

streako · November 2008

WhatMTB admitted that warm soapy water was as good as anything.

I either use washing up liquid, or even better, car shampoo. Loads cheaper than fancy MTB-specific cleaner.

Neat fairy liquid and a scrubbing brush can clean up the muddiest, oiliest cassettes.

ride_whenever · November 2008

be careful with washing up liquid and car products, as they can damage alloy parts.

I use water and a brush/cloth, generally i remove the drivetrain to clean it...

lesz42 · November 2008

car shampoo and warm water, seems ok, fenwicks seems to work better tho

streako · November 2008

I doubt cleaners will damage alloy parts as much as general abuse and crap from trails, salt from roads, etc. If parts are soft enough to be damaged by a drop of Fairy I dont think they will last long on the trails...

Remove drivetrain by all means if you have the time after every ride, but it really isnt necessary for cleaning. I only tend to remove mine when its worn out and needs replacing.

As I ride quite often, mostly the bike gets a quick hosedown to remove loose stuff. A proper wash is done maybe every couple of weeks or so at this time of year.

Northwind · November 2008

I just started using the Tesco Daisy stuff, I upped the concentration and it's pretty effective... Not to mention the fact that it'll probably last the rest of my life and cost 60p 8) It's exactly as effective as Muc-off, on mud at least. It might eat my paint though, who knows

roger_merriman · November 2008

hot water, old toothbrush and various scratchies and brushes i don't go for perfection but brakes/forks and drive chain. i do make sure is clean and oiled if need be.

KonaMike · November 2008

I use the Tesco stuff too ! Bargain !!

Oz. · November 2008

Power washer seemed to work fine, obviously you want to use some common sense and not have a too powerful jet

Belphegor · November 2008

Oz. wrote:

Power washer seemed to work fine, obviously you want to use some common sense and not have a too powerful jet

I'd rather take a bit longer and not risk the bearing seal damage!

dave_hill · November 2008

ride_whenever wrote:

be careful with washing up liquid and car products, as they can damage alloy parts.

Nah, won't happen. I've been washing my bike for years with warm water and Fairy, even the aluminum framed ones and never had a problem.

I'm still waiting for the windows to fall out of my car because I use washing up liquid instead of car shampoo...

Ed 81 · November 2008

agree with the above, heard so many times not to use washing up liquid to clean car/ bike but never known any one every to have a problem with it. Been cleaning cars for years and years with it

ratty2k · November 2008

Another here using the wondrous green liquid that is Fairy. No problems, and same as Dave, use it on the car as well.

jadamson · December 2008

they only say dont use fairy because they want you to buy there rip off products. its basically a little secret that fairy liquid or slightly better car shampoo works a treat! seriously dont bother with special products unless they have really fooled you. at the end of the day the bike is made from alloy or titanium or whatever and its just like cleaning your car so why use different products?!?

if you want to argue with that i will need scientific proof before i believe in the myths of muc-off etc etc

Northwind · December 2008

Fairy does contain salt, which does corrode exposed metal and is a mild abrasive. If you use it on car bodywork, for instance, over time it will fade it and encourage swirling. If you use it on exposed aluminium, then it's noticable too. But the only time you'll see exposed ally on a mountain bike is where something's been damaged. I think that's the bit which people miss, most parts on a bike are anodised or painted or coated or otherwise protected against rust, so the salt isn't such an issue.

Still, it's not the best cleaner you could choose, the Tesco Daisy does a better job and is much cheaper.

esamenoi · December 2008

Ok well at the mo I'm just using a good old hose pipe. But is it a good idea to dry your bike off? I oil it up with WD40 but should I dry it too?

TheKrikkitWars · December 2008

Fairy is a pretty potent degreaser, do you re-lube after each wash and rinse?

ride_whenever · December 2008

WD-40 is great for drying your bike, (not lubing or on discs though) some proper lube is necessary for chain and cables and mechs though.

littleandy0410 · December 2008

What's this Tesco Daisy then? I'm nearly out of Muc-off (got with some halfords vouchers) and looking at alternatives.

Just got myself a Dirtworker about a month ago, it's great for rides that you travel to/from by car. Saves putting a minging bike on the roof and all the mud ending up on the car!

esamenoi · December 2008

I might have to look at getting a decnt lube for my gears and stuff but for now the WD40 will do untill I can. But I don't know when I can get out and do some decent trails again as I have to rely on my dad to take me :P

stayhigh65 · December 2008

I use Halfords Advanced (?) car wash which is cheap and cheerful and gets the bikes sparkly clean to boot

I use GT85 after washing to get water out and also to give the bike a little polish and then lube the drivetrain up. I use Epic White lightning during the summer and Finishline Wet lube is this winters choice, so far so good.

owenlars · December 2008

Dumb question I'm afraid. If you use WD40 or GT85 to dry the bike do you just spray the frame with it and wipe it off? Also are you careful to avoid getting it on the drivetrain or do you just wack it all over the bike?

stayhigh65 · December 2008

Spray liberally over the bike obviously trying to avoid disc's and then give a rub down with an old rag. I usually give a good blast to the brake/gear levers to drive any water out that maybe lurking there and also give the drivetrain and bottom bracket and squirt too. If you do spray it onto you rotors by mistake then you can wipe them over with some alcohol wipes which you can get from a chemist or pharmacy. Or a hospital if your a nurse

I normally spray this on after I've used a de-greaser & an old tooth brush to clean the chain and mechs which then gets rinsed off with water.

Northwind · December 2008

littleandy0410 wrote:

What's this Tesco Daisy then? I'm nearly out of Muc-off (got with some halfords vouchers) and looking at alternatives.
!

It's just a really potent concentrated general cleaner, it costs about 60p for a bottle, which then dilutes down to something ridiculous like 50 litres of cleaner 8) I'm a wee bit wary of it, some products like this can attack paint and anodising, but I've been fine with it- I just make sure it's all rinsed off after. Keep your old muc off bottle!

Tallchap1 · December 2008

I have used Scottoil 365 spray successfully on my motorbike after washing and find that it stops corrosion and my bike washes much more easily next time. After a few applications (spray it on after a wash) a quick hose down and a light sponge cleans the bike. Started using it on my MTB and lo, same thing, clean bike , no corrosion, minimum effort. Result. Only £7 ish for a spray, big refills work out cheaper. Hein Gerricke and numerous other motorcycle shops sell this magic liquid.

Mattbot2 · January 2009

Just a bump.

Anyone got a picture of this Tesco daisy stuff? Muc off / FS10 look far too expensive. £7 for a litre? What the hell is that about?

The Northern Monkey · January 2009

Anyone use a foam lance? lots of people in the car world use them to clean cars.. would work well if you have a karcher or similar (stops any high pressure damaging the bearings etc)
Use it with fairy and it could be quite effective?!

MarvintheAndroid · January 2009

BorisSpencer wrote:

....Fenwicks FS1 (diluted with nine parts water to make FS10).....

LOL

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Chevie · January 2009

So let me get this straight in my head, sorry to reapet everyone but i am a beginner an i need to undersstand how to look after me new Hopper

First wash off all mud wiv hose pipe then wiv bucket of fairy an water

Then at what point do spray WD40 or GT85 on your chain gears etc etc?
Do you dry your bike off first then spray?
Is WD40 an GT85 a lube an do i spray it every where

I've also seen all these different brushes you can buy for tyres an cassetts are these just another gimick or worth a buy if so which ones?

Hope i dont sound like too much of a idiot

Cheers

The Northern Monkey · January 2009

Chevie wrote:

So let me get this straight in my head, sorry to reapet everyone but i am a beginner an i need to undersstand how to look after me new Hopper

First wash off all mud wiv hose pipe then wiv bucket of fairy an water

Then at what point do spray WD40 or GT85 on your chain gears etc etc?
Do you dry your bike off first then spray?
Is WD40 an GT85 a lube an do i spray it every where

I've also seen all these different brushes you can buy for tyres an cassetts are these just another gimick or worth a buy if so which ones?

Hope i dont sound like too much of a idiot

Cheers

Buy a proper chain lube that is specific for the job. Check you LBS...

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