Recovery between the Marmotte and the Etape?
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I have wanted to ride the Marmotte for several years, but it has always clashed with the Etape's I have ridden. Next year I intend to attempt both of these rides as there is a reasonable amount of time between them.
I know the pro's ride mountain stages day after day..But as a 44 yr old recreational cyclist that has never raced proper....do you think I have enough time (16 days) between the 2 events to recover, maintain fitness and peak again?
What type of riding and recovery strategy should I be doing/using between the events?
Also is there anyone else planning to ride them both?
I know the pro's ride mountain stages day after day..But as a 44 yr old recreational cyclist that has never raced proper....do you think I have enough time (16 days) between the 2 events to recover, maintain fitness and peak again?
What type of riding and recovery strategy should I be doing/using between the events?
Also is there anyone else planning to ride them both?
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I think if you're planning to ride near your limits in the Etape to register your fastest time there may be a recovery problem that could reduce your performance. In that case you should take it easier in the Marmotte.
If you're planning to be well-trained - ie not limited in your training in 2009 - you should be OK. Do you find you can recover easily from 100 mile rides, ie ride another the next day or so?
Remember the Marmotte is part of a week long series 90 mile 4000m Vaujany on Sunday, 25 miles Grandes Rousses on Wednesday, Marmotte Saturday, Grimpee de l'Alpe Sunday. Many people ride all the events.
But having said that, I am knackered the next day and doubt I could do it all again!
Not knowing anything about your weight, type of riding and general health, it's impossible to say of course, but if you do the training over the winter you'll find out yourself how your body responds to periods of long and/or intense effort and so know what is best for you.
Eating/drinking badly before and during the first event, perhaps exacerbated by weather conditions on the day and possible sleep deprivation caused by early budget flights – all will have an effect on how you recover for the second one. But also remember your basic fitness will be optimised by all the winter and spring training you are (hopefully) going to do.
It seems a long way off, but get into virtuous habits early. Nothing extreme, but make getting out on the bike regularly part of your routine. Many people get bored or distracted during the winter and lose motivation, then regret it as summer weather arrives and the deadline draws near. Cramming it in the weeks before will just wear you down and make you slower to recover.
Personally I like to travel out to these kinds of event a few days ahead of the big day and get acclimatised and rested. I also like to do 2 events in a 10 day trip, i.e. one granfondo or cyclosportive each weekend with a bit of slow paced touring in-between, as this seems a better use of the cost/time/effort of getting over there. It seems a number of people have done the combo of La Vaujany and Marmotte sportives on successive weekends, me included. As long as I have done the training beforehand and haven't succumbed to some passenger's cold pumped round the airport air conditioning it works just fine.
Ride the Marmotte hard. Follow it with all things recovery (drinks, m,assages, rides). Then get back into the training - shorter but still hard rides - and peak again for the Etape.
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The only time I didn't recover quickly after the Marmotte was when the weather was terrible and the day turned into a day of just surviving. On both occasions this happened, I fell ill quite quickly after finishing the event and obviously going too far into the red zone on the day.
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I think the problem is that you don't get over the memory of the pain so easily
FWIW, In 2007 aged 48 I did the Trophee Oisans series(Vaujany/Grand Rousses/Marmotte-too knackered to do the Grimpe Alpe) week, then the Etape 8 days later.
While Alpe D'Huez on the Marmotte was hard, on the Etape, I found the (very difficult)Port de Bales, trying, and by the Peresourde, I really had had enough of the bike for a while
Perhaps approaching it with a tapering week before the Marmotte and several easy rides between the two, would be a good idea?