hey peejay, not sure if this is any use to you but if you are thinking of going for the Bob Jackson, then you might like to check out Putney Cycles. Was in there the other day and the guy in there said they are going to be stocking them in about three weeks time. I don't know of any other bike shop in london that does. though my mate just got his direct from Bob Jackson.
I'd have a classic steelie anyday over a cookie-cutter Langster. Great that they get people riding SS/fixed, but to me it shows a total lack of imagination. For the same money, you could get yourself a classic steel frame of the bay and fix it up with your own eclectic mix of parts - you'll probably learn a whole lot about bike mechanics too and save yourself a fortune in servicing!
i am not a hater - my comment was based on an irrational comment about bob jacksons. as for "if you have that kind of cash" - a vigorelli frame is œ280. hardly the same as a mercian.
bareknuckles are closer to langsters than vigorellis are to bromptons. and the quirkier, more far out, more esoteric you get, the more desperate you are to be cool.
Don't get too wrapped up in names and brands, PJ. I think it's the rider that's important.
What's the point in buying a expensive custom bike if you can't beat a langster up highgate west?
It's all about the muscles, the heart and the will.
Yeah why not. We'll have liquid refreshments at the flask pub at the top. I'm off for a ride now since i've been in all day, probably do highgate west / swains lane laps.
Langster, Bareknuckle, Fuji, Surly, Condor...same difference, all off the peg, nothing wrong with that at all, after all there are good reasons why people buy off the peg; it's quick, convienant, can try before you buy etc. But if you don't want to ride what other are riding then either you need to have some knowledge and time to look around for the right stuff, or you need to spend some cash and leave it all up to a framebuilder.
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uuuuuuuuuuu i was just kiddin i'm thinking of a BJ myself actually...i've decided that i'm gonna start saving cash and if by the time i have enough to get a bj i havent found anything better i'll end up with one a dem jacksons
personally, for the money a Genesis Flyer would edge it for me..
the charge is no lightweight, but looks solid enough. they are a good company, and very eager to help..you might even get a reply from a representative on this thread eventually.
I am using a Langster 2006 for 36kms daily commute plus long weekend rides/training (i.e. London - Brighton). I am about 85kg + 5kg rucksack and never had problems with the frame.
I have fairly personalized the bike to improve comfort and reduce weight. I have gradually upgraded the fork to ITM carbon, Pave carbon seatpost, tyres from 700-23 to 700-25 Michelin Krylion (2007 model comes with basic quality carbon fork and seatpost). I also use SKS Raceblades mudguards...but...foul mudguards give better protection for both bike and rider (especially in heavy rain and snow!!)
I am now considering changing (lowering) the 16x48 gearing but I cannot install foul mudguards like in the Pombino or Kona Paddy Wagon. I also think that the heavier the rider the better option becomes the steel frame but again it is heavier.
If I had to buy now a new single/fixed bike I would also consider the steel Kona Paddy Wagon that won the title of the category for last year in C+.
By the way, have you seen the new UK/London specific editions of the new 2008 Langster!!!
OK, thanks for the correction, "full" I wanted to say.it's not always easy for non-native speakers to check spelling errors!!!!
Anyway I think in terms of cycling we speak the same language or at least we understand each other.mudguards may not be appreciated by all people but the winter I really wish to have a pair of full mudguards especially those days with sub-zero temperatures with rain and snow.
All the best
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i have to make do with race blades on my fuji - but they are fine. and i can take them off when the weather gets dry and appreciate the clean, track lines. not that it's ever DRY anymore.
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i put even more weird pictures up just now.
cheers for the tip jonny. i think i may wait because my mum lives near pudsey and i am due a pilgrimage to bob jackson's soon.
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
they're really ****. you'll hate it.
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Don't listen to the haters.
bareknuckles are closer to langsters than vigorellis are to bromptons. and the quirkier, more far out, more esoteric you get, the more desperate you are to be cool.
we're all agreed on one thing though - langsters suck censored .
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
What's the point in buying a expensive custom bike if you can't beat a langster up highgate west?
It's all about the muscles, the heart and the will.
good point.
i'll back down. it was the reference to "brompton" that fired the blood.
are you riding this thursday?
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
If you're up for it, see you there.
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fuji track and langster are off the peg bikes. (and both very different too)
the bareknuckle is frame and fork.
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http://www.bianchiusa.com/07_b4p_fremont.html
Personally I think it looks nicer than the Pista(which I have). Don't know if I'd pay he extra though?
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/news/artic ... 14/v/1/sp/
I'm thinking of getting one in August as my commuter bike.
the charge is no lightweight, but looks solid enough. they are a good company, and very eager to help..you might even get a reply from a representative on this thread eventually.
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I have fairly personalized the bike to improve comfort and reduce weight. I have gradually upgraded the fork to ITM carbon, Pave carbon seatpost, tyres from 700-23 to 700-25 Michelin Krylion (2007 model comes with basic quality carbon fork and seatpost). I also use SKS Raceblades mudguards...but...foul mudguards give better protection for both bike and rider (especially in heavy rain and snow!!)
I am now considering changing (lowering) the 16x48 gearing but I cannot install foul mudguards like in the Pombino or Kona Paddy Wagon. I also think that the heavier the rider the better option becomes the steel frame but again it is heavier.
If I had to buy now a new single/fixed bike I would also consider the steel Kona Paddy Wagon that won the title of the category for last year in C+.
By the way, have you seen the new UK/London specific editions of the new 2008 Langster!!!
http://thebicycleescape.blogspot.com/20 ... -peak.html
PS: any idea on installing foul mudguards on a tight frame...I've heard that there are some particularly tiny made for this purpose?
the geometry of the "2008 london langster" looks totally wrong with that look.
it's a completely specious piece of marketing. this bike SUCKS.
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2xkbbs
summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
Anyway I think in terms of cycling we speak the same language or at least we understand each other.mudguards may not be appreciated by all people but the winter I really wish to have a pair of full mudguards especially those days with sub-zero temperatures with rain and snow.
All the best
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If I had a baby elephant signature, I'd use that.
If I had a baby elephant signature, I\'d use that.
and your english is way better than mine.
i have to make do with race blades on my fuji - but they are fine. and i can take them off when the weather gets dry and appreciate the clean, track lines. not that it's ever DRY anymore.
winter: http://tinyurl.com/2vx78q
summer: http://tinyurl.com/2hsagv
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