Replacing shifters

Aux1 · June 2007

I'm still going to replace my Deore shifters with some Sram Attack ones. So, what's the exact procedure?

I remove the Deores and put on the Srams, pulling the cables through the existing black cable hoses?

When I attach them to the derailleur, do I make the cables tense and then fine tune with the barrel adjuster?

Will I have to cut extra cable after I attach them?

Thanks in advance!

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Unknown · June 2007

basically yes. might be an idea to check the existing outers and replace as needed.

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Aux1 · June 2007

Ahh ok! I'll manage...
So, I have my current working Deores, and when I buy the Srams I'll have everything I need for replacement? No additional parts necessary?

P.s. what is an outer? [:I]

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Unknown · June 2007

the inner wire is the inner and the outer casing is the outer.

but TBH i would not bother with that attacks. why not go X-7? all it will add to the cost is a rear mech. and you then get the full Sram benifit. Sram triggers and 1:1 pull ratio.

yes you can use your existing front mech with the X-7's.

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Aux1 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by nicklouse

the inner wire is the inner and the outer casing is the outer.

but TBH i would not bother with that attacks. why not go X-7? all it will add to the cost is a rear mech. and you then get the full Sram benifit. Sram triggers and 1:1 pull ratio.

yes you can use your existing front mech with the X-7's.

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Well, I'm perfectly satisfied with the current shifting, but the problem is that I need to put my brake levers inside and shifters on the outside for better one-finger braking, and I can't do that with the Deore's gear indicators in the way. So the Attacks would be the answers.

Because I do some pretty long descents all the time, and I want to get the maximum out of my brakes, ensure optimum hold with one finger etc., minimize the pain in my arms & hands... Hope this will make a difference for some faster and more comfortable descents!

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Unknown · June 2007

fair enough, another option that i would try first is bigger rotors.

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guilliano · June 2007

XT shifters are also worth a look. I find middle finger braking easier since I had these fitted (still getting used to middle finger braking). Shifting is a lot smoother than with Deore an the rear mech won't need changing

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Unknown · June 2007

Guiliano but he will still not be able to move the brakes inboard. Ok the display on the XT's can be removed and a cover put over the hole.

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guilliano · June 2007

The display is smaller, allowing a little more movement to find the right positioning. As with sooooo many things it is all about personal preference. If switching from Shimano to SRAM it's worth seeing if you can try a bike with SRAM shifters before swapping.

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Aux1 · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by guilliano

As with sooooo many things it is all about personal preference.
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Yep, I'm trying hard to find that optimal ergonomical position... Being able to hold your bars firmly and comfortably with 3 fingers while squeezing the max out of your brakes for as long as the trail demands is maybe the most important thing when you do descents...

You guys gave me some useful ideas, I'll even give it a shot with middle finger braking (can you get used to it? [:)]) so maybe I won't even need to replace the shifters, I'll see!

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Aux1 · June 2007

One more question, can you shift SRAM up to 3 gears at once in the rear, as on Deore?

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RSMarcowmb · June 2007

When you say it's basically a matter of changing the shifters and threading through the cable, how do you know that the rear mech has been reset to be inline with the shifter position?

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<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Aux1

One more question, can you shift SRAM up to 3 gears at once in the rear, as on Deore?

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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">yes if not 4.

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<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RSMarco

When you say it's basically a matter of changing the shifters and threading through the cable, how do you know that the rear mech has been reset to be inline with the shifter position?

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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> thats why you have the barrel tensioners. to take up the slack.

also when you remove the cable the mech will go to one end or the other, for normal small cog 9 so you should have the shifter at 9 already (infact they come like that).

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Aux1 · June 2007

My mech is properly adjusted now, so if I install the SRAMs and make the cable tense with the barrel tensioner, they should keep on shifting perfectly? No need to adjust the L/H screws on the mech?

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Andy B · June 2007

If you're not changing the mech, no need to adjust L/H screws, maybe need to adjust the indexing a little though

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Unknown · June 2007

Piece of pish swapping shifters

make sure shifters are in 9 for rear 1 for front
screw barel all the way in then back it off 1.5 full turns
to allow for index tweeking, connect cable at mech taking excess slack
out of the cable tighten bolt, make slight adjustment at barrels if indexing
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Aux1 · June 2007

I phoned a bike service shop, and the guy managed to find one front X-9 shifter somewhere on the heap of parts in his store. It was unpacked, but never used. He sold and installed it for me for the equivalent of 27 GBP. I think it's a 2006 model. I'm pretty satisfied with the thumb-only operation, and the lever placement feels just about right now. I might be able to squeeze 10-20% more stopping power out of the front Julie now; just enough to bring me to a full slowdown right in time! Here's the final result. I didn't change the rear configuration, I can still shift OK and the rear brake is already strong enough. It was the front one which I had problems with.

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