Tubeless??

tigerocket · June 2007

Yep i know they are supposed to be lighter, run them at lower pressures and all that but does everyone actually like them.

I've just had a mavic 819 rim put on the front (hope pro II hub, spokes ?? black), so i should get a tubeless tyre to go on it but my mate has loads of grief getting them on and off.

Can you fix punctures on the trail or do you need a track pump?

what tubeless tyre can i put on the front and what kit shall i use to convert the back oh and tyre choice for the back to. i ride a stumpy expert 05 with panaracer cinders at the moment.

I think i saw a WMB issue which probably has the answers to these but it is Friday afternoon and I've got time to kill so i thought i'd get some opinion.

cheers, have a good ride this weekend if you are not stuck indoors doing chuffing DIY.

futon river crossing · June 2007

Don't do it

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futon river crossing · June 2007

Don't do it

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Unknown · June 2007

Relax, Don't do it

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Unknown · June 2007

nah not worth the hassle and it also costs more [:(] don't do it!!!

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Marky Mark. · June 2007

Do it, do it, do it! Purchased a pair of Geax TNT (Tube No Tube)tyres for œ35 or œ40, can't remember which, and they are superb, little tricky to get on and off but the benfits I've found far outweigh the negatives. Use a latex sealent and that will seal all those annoying thorn punctures, etc.

Stan's or something similar for the back would be fine.

Found the Geax TNT tyres tricky to get on (XM719's) but so easy to inflate with Stans. Tear in the sidewall is the only show stopper I've had and I always carry a spare tube anyway, it might of been a messy change but it didn't take that much longer.

Try it, I did and I'm not going back, besides I had to make my Spesh a little different didn't I [;)]

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Pacewmb · June 2007

Do it. Also got 819's on hope pro 2s and the schwalbe's ive got were tight but with decent tyre levers a breeze to fit, not really any longer that standard tyres with tubes, no real seating issues.

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Unknown · June 2007

Some love em, some hate em. Its the SPD vs fla argument. try them out, if all goes well, keep them.

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Marky Mark. · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

Some love em, some hate em. Its the SPD vs fla argument. try them out, if all goes well, keep them.

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I know what you're saying mate but unlike the great SPD/flat debate where a lot of us can form an opinion because we've tried both, the same can't be said for tubless. Spot on with your try it out theroy fella.

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futon river crossing · June 2007

I've tried tubeless - misery all the way.

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Unknown · June 2007

Go on mate, elaborate?! ;-)

Which system and what went wrong?

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Unknown · June 2007

dont do it, get some self sealing inertubes much easier than going tubeless.

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futon river crossing · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

Go on mate, elaborate?! ;-)

Which system and what went wrong?

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I have Mavic Crosslands on my HT. It's been puncture atfter puncture on the rear tyre. I changed the rear tyre from specialized to Maxiss - same thing. so you have to carry with you spare innertubes for all the punctures, you have to replace the slime every time, Co2 cannisters to inflate the damned things, tyres difficault to remove, espcially the specialized tyre. Then - i just couldnt get the rear maxiss tyre to hold air - I thought ***K it - and put an inner tube in it = peace of mind.

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Mad Splasherwmb · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Frankie

Relax, Don't do it

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Can't believe no-one's done this yet - Frankie says relax!

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Vegeeta · June 2007

Don't do it.

Personally, I can't see any significant advantages. Especially if you run good pressures and reasonably good condition tyres.
In fact I can see more disadvantages:

If you don't run sealant:
-Get a puncture, you have to put a tube in anyway most likely.

If you do run sealant:
-It makes a mess.
-Takes longer to change tyres.

I have thought of loads more, but I'm tired and I can't remember them.

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Unknown · June 2007

But are less likely to get punctures in most cases, and pinch flats. I don't change my tyres regularly, so has benefits for me on an XC bike.

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futon river crossing · June 2007

I kept on getting explosive punctures from flints - they were too big for the sealant to seal.

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Unknown · June 2007

The Crossmax I have are the UST system

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Unknown · June 2007

ive used conti vertical pro 2.3 ust on mavic crossland wheels for 12 months & never had any issues.i dont think i save much in weight to be honest but running my tyres at 30 psi around dalby i notice as real difference.you do require a track pump to fit the tyres or do what i did carefully inflate the tyres with the compressor at work useing the adaptor i got with the wheels.

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Marky Mark. · June 2007

Futon, you certainly haven't had much luck and we ride the same areas I imagine. Oh well, don't mind comments that are based on actual expereinces, did you use UST tyres or normal Maxxis? I didn't get on with the stock Spesh tyres but got on with Maxxis. What system did you use? Only asking so that I know what to avoid in future[:)]

I'm a large mammal that is happilly running 30 psi at the moment but still experimenting with the pressure to find that sweet spot, no burping, no pressure loss, no problems so far.

Sonic's right (as usual), it's never going to be something that's for everyone.

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futon river crossing · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Marky Mark

Futon, you certainly haven't had much luck and we ride the same areas I imagine. Oh well, don't mind comments that are based on actual expereinces, did you use UST tyres or normal Maxxis? I didn't get on with the stock Spesh tyres but got on with Maxxis. What system did you use? Only asking so that I know what to avoid in future[:)]

I'm a large mammal that is happilly running 30 psi at the moment but still experimenting with the pressure to find that sweet spot, no burping, no pressure loss, no problems so far.

Sonic's right (as usual), it's never going to be something that's for everyone.

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I used the proper UST kit, tyres, slime, wheels = constant puntures. It just got too expensive. I got too many punctures for it to be bad luck IMO. I allways got the punctures at high speed on flinty trails - but slowing down to prevent them somehow seems to defeat the point.

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Unknown · June 2007

I didn't think a proper UST kit (with rims) needed slime?

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JimmyMature · June 2007

Originally posted by supersonic

I didn't think a proper UST kit (with rims) needed slime?

You're correct that you dont need slime for UST rims but it does help preventing punctures on the trails.

With regards to benefits of Tubeless, I have Crossmax ST with tubeless tyres and Stans No Tubes to prevent punctures and had no problems at all other than the intial set up but used an air line and it went up straight away.

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Lonewolfkub · June 2007

No, Try it. I ran some michelin all mountains for 1 year and no dramas (punctures wise). They accelerate faster which is always a good thing and if you don't like the way they feel or perform then just put an inner tube in. Hardly expensive.

But as you can tell so far by some of the responses it is a personal thing.

futon river crossing · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

I didn't think a proper UST kit (with rims) needed slime?

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You don't need it - but it's usefull for thorn/gorse punctures - a real problem on the Sussex Downs.

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Marky Mark. · June 2007

The only problem I've had going tubeless was caused by a flint on the South Downs on my first outing so I know where you're coming from. Almost gave up there and then but have had zero flats/problems since, I'm gonna stay away from where you ride Futon, just to be on the safe side though. [;)]

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tigerocket · June 2007

blimey you lot have been busy over the weekend.

I feel i know more but i'm not a lot wiser. Flints will cause holes and there is a good chance of getting punctures from thorns, you can accelerate faster and use slime. i'm still concern about being able to get air back into the tyre if out on the trail.

i'll have a look at some of the tyres mentioned and some stans slime stuff.

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