Law

jamiejim
jamiejim Posts: 244
edited July 2007 in The Crudcatcher
Last week a couple of teachers at college recommened that I consider Law as a career because I am good at argueing!

I had previously considered it a few years ago but shrugged it off as being too elitist for me. However, I have always been interested in Law and how it works so I am seriously considering it.

Does anyone have any experience with it/done it/knows anyone thats into it? I just wanna know how hard it is to get a place at uni in it and the career prospects at graduate level.

Any help would be much appriciated.
MBUK

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  • November
    November Posts: 130
    Right.. Hmm.. Well, this goes for the Dutch law degrees but it can't differ that much from the English ones.

    From what I've heard, basically the course itself is quite boring and quite bad - not so much in terms of it being really difficult, just a lot and alot and a lot and a lot and a lot of reading and remembering stupid little facts. However, the career prospects are quite good as there's so very many places you'd be needed in. You'll need to choose your spec wisely I reckon, but the chances of getting a job are quite good.

    I don't know how the getting in process is in England, but in Holland Law is one of the studies with the most students. I reckon in England there's a lot of law students as well so I doubt it's incredibly hard to get into.

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  • JinjaNinja
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    From what i've heard, Nov's summed up what my friends have said. Its not hard to get into the course, well no harder then any others. Not sure about job prosects, but that could all change by the time you come out with a degree!

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  • dan1983
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    From what I know about it, November is right about there being lots of reading. I did A-level Law and there was loads of facts and cases to remember, so i'm assuming a degree would be 100s of times more. BUT, my mate is doing it at the moment at Newcastle Uni and loves it. Another way to consider would be to do another degree then do the CPE (my cousin did History degree and did that and is now solicitor in Leeds). As for job prospects, the competition is high and tough, but very rewarding if you get into it (i.e. loadsa œ!) The only thing that put me off doing Law as a career was the fact it takes so long, 4 years or so at Uni then couple of years working before qualifying, or at least thats how i think it works. Might be wrong though.
  • I did a Business law module as part of my marketing degree. I found it really rather boring, as did most other people. But I guess if law interests you, do it.

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  • doug
    doug Posts: 8,927
    i am going to university to study law in september

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  • jamiejim
    jamiejim Posts: 244
    4 years at Uni? That sucks.

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    Which Uni?
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  • 4 years at Uni sucks? You have no idea what your talking about. If it was up to me my course would be 10 years long.

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  • jamiejim
    jamiejim Posts: 244
    Obviously I dont know what im talking about, seeing as I've never been! But another year of uni just sounds like another year of pileing on debt. Mabey im wrong?
    MBUK
  • Big Red S
    Big Red S Posts: 26,890
    My understanding is that a degree in law puts you at no greater advantage career-wise than a degree in anything else followed by the conversion course, unless you're at a _really_ good uni (oxbridge). I'd have thought that, depending on where you go and what you read, another subject at degree level could be an advantage. Anything that boils down to a qualification in reading (History, anthropology, sociology etc.) would probably be quite desirable.

    Being good at arguing doesn't neccesarily lend you to a degree in law, though it might a career in it - I've had politics suggested to me numerous times for the same reason.

    Don't go to uni to study something you've been told you're good at. Study something you enjoy. IME, you have to _really_ love what you are studying to do at all well in it (i.e. a get worthwhile degree from a decent uni), or just be really lucky.

    And fully check out what the course consists of before you make any decisions. Find people who are studying it now and ask to have a peer at their lecture notes or courseworks - see if it really is the kind of thing you can spend four years doing.

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  • jamiejim
    jamiejim Posts: 244
    Thanks for the advice BRS, I definatly dont want to leap into a Law degree and find out I dont enjoy it. I will probably do either a Psychology or English Degree because I have an A level in both and enjoy them. I understand that both of these degrees are quite useful because of the high level of reading/comprehension in them? So a degree in either should mean a career in Law is still possible if I still feel like it post grad?
    MBUK
  • Big Red S
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    Psychology degrees render you practically unemployable. You've a degree, so want a graduate job, but your degree is in psychology so you can't do any graduate jobs.

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  • jamiejim
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    balls
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  • November
    November Posts: 130
    It really depends too though. There's soo many different types of law. For example, for a very long time I've wanted to do family law. That interests me so I thought it'd be really nice. However.. Business law or similar types of law sound utterly boring to me. But my mum is a lawyer type person for the government's children and family department and she absolutely loves her job. She gets paid pretty well and with what she does she actually makes a change in some people's lives.

    I probably would've gone for the family law if I could've. However (in case you're wondering) seeing as I'm moving to England I didn't want to do a Law study because it'd be a specific country's law. Don't want to bind myself to England or Holland. Hence my new chosen study being a bit more universal in case I wanna move back here. [:)]

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  • jamiejim
    jamiejim Posts: 244
    true, although Family law really doesnt appeal to me seeing as my family is a bit of a mess so it would be a bit close to home. I reckon buisiness law would be more up my street, in an utterly boring sort of way [;)]
    MBUK
  • Right then. I'm gonna do law next year, I know people who are currently studying law and have done work experience in chambers and law firms.

    Englinsh and Welsh Law Degree: Lots of options. There are certain core modules you need to cover in order to gain a qualifying degree. These include contract law, criminal law, EU law and stuff like that. Law is a competetive field to get into. In a top solicitors firm, you need to be in the top 80 of 5000 people to get a training contract. If you want to be a barrister (where you argue in court all day) then only 25% of people get a pupillage after leaving uni.

    The course can be interesting, or boring depending on your view point. There are A LOT of cases and statutes to learn. For my contract law A level, alltogether there were probably around 300 cases for me to learn. It's not as bad as it sounds, because they get broken up into lots of small topics. However, if you're not good at remembering facts, then forget it.

    As for Job prospects, getting a job in law is hard work. It's very competetive, but most people get a job eventually, and work as a para-legal (a solicitor's biaaaaaaatch!) until they can get a training contract or pupillage. Getting a job in another field is a lot easier, because Law is a highly regarded degree (especially if you get a good one) which should make getting a job in fields other than law easier.

    Hope this helps.

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  • Oldmacdonald
    Oldmacdonald Posts: 926
    Taking Law is for those that want to struggle to find a job at the end because there are so so so many people going in for law just now.

    I'd go for something else.
  • jamiejim
    jamiejim Posts: 244
    yer, I realise there is quite a lot of competition for jobs. Competition sucks :cry:
    MBUK