Mavic ust leaking from Spokes.

AvMan
AvMan Posts: 9
edited June 2007 in MTB general
I have just recently bought a second hand pace with Mavic Crosmax SL ust's (never used tubeless before) on it and cant get the back tyre to stay up for long. we have had a lot of standing water in hull this week a bit flooded and i went thru about a mile of standing water and the tyre was flat within 2 mins.

the spoke holes had air bubbles coming out of them.

Should i get a sealant or should the mavics not leak out of the spokes? the front wheel is fine!

Thanks

jon


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  • Starky
    Starky Posts: 546
    On the mavic UST rims it shouldnt be possible for them to leak out the spoke holes as they dont go right through the rim. You may still see bubbles coming out because of air in the middle layer of the rim. Your best bet is the sealant or just put an inner tube in

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  • ddoogie
    ddoogie Posts: 4,159
    You should always be running a sealant with tubeless systems.

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    first identify where the leak actually is. as starky said not possible as the rim designwill not allow it.

    i would remove the tyre and have alook at what you actually have before adding anything.

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  • Dangerous Dave
    Dangerous Dave Posts: 8,349
    Yeah, the outside of the rim is a completely sealed unit, check for any damage but I can't imagine why that is happening.
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ddoogie</i>

    You should always be running a sealant with tubeless systems.

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  • AvMan
    AvMan Posts: 9
    ok been a bit of a newbie to tubeless, the front wheel did not have air bubbles on it, could it be the seal for the valve leaking into the rim? if i use sealant which sealant should i use?

    Jon


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  • rubber side up
    rubber side up Posts: 2,150
    The Valves can leak if not installed properly/damaged. Although i dont know about it leaking into the spoke hole areas. having not used ust rims in the past.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by AvMan</i>

    ok been a bit of a newbie to tubeless, the front wheel did not have air bubbles on it, could it be the seal for the valve leaking into the rim? if i use sealant which sealant should i use?

    Jon


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    Check the valve is done up tight enough - should be a little black knurled ring that you can tighten up against the rim. If air is escaping through the valve - it could be wondering around in the gap between the outer and inner wall - which would explain why it's coming out of the spoke holes.

    If you've tried tightening the valve, and it still does it, try swapping it with the front one. If that solves it, you've established you need to either by a new o-ring or just a whole new valve. Otherwise, you do have a serious issue with the rim.
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  • AvMan
    AvMan Posts: 9
    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dangerous Dave</i>

    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by AvMan</i>

    ok been a bit of a newbie to tubeless, the front wheel did not have air bubbles on it, could it be the seal for the valve leaking into the rim? if i use sealant which sealant should i use?

    Jon


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    Check the valve is done up tight enough - should be a little black knurled ring that you can tighten up against the rim. If air is escaping through the valve - it could be wondering around in the gap between the outer and inner wall - which would explain why it's coming out of the spoke holes.

    If you've tried tightening the valve, and it still does it, try swapping it with the front one. If that solves it, you've established you need to either by a new o-ring or just a whole new valve. Otherwise, you do have a serious issue with the rim.
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    i'll check tonight, do i need to remove tyres to replace/swap the valve
    should i still get some sealant if so which type?

    Jon

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  • Dangerous Dave
    Dangerous Dave Posts: 8,349
    Sorry, forgot to mention sealant.

    Best one I've used is Bontrager "Super Juice", available through Trek Dealers.
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    <hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><i>Originally posted by Jon</i>
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    Shut up. And ride your bike.
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  • thaibog
    thaibog Posts: 271
    stans no tubes....fantastic stuff

    seals huge holes in the tyre after a couple of spins

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  • Dangerous Dave
    Dangerous Dave Posts: 8,349
    I don't think this is a tyre issue...
    Put it is always worth checking..

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    <hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><i>Originally posted by Jon</i>
    <center>As Dave and Alex raced past, someone in the other group of people said 'those two are good'. [:D]</font id="size1"></center><hr noshade size="1">
    Shut up. And ride your bike.
    Originally posted by Jon
    As Dave and Alex raced past, someone in the other group of people said 'those two are good'