Council built dirt jumps - INFO NEEDED

danhargrave7 · June 2007

right,

i opened a topic/thread about this about 2 weeks ago, and we went to the meeting today, and they seemed interested (especially considering their age) and the main concerns were:

- Insurance

- Structure of the jumps (concrete/hard pack foundations?)

- Any problems with other projects like this, ie. We need to find out about other projects like this, and what their problems were.

Basically, i really need some info from people who have had this happen to them, or have info about council built jumps near them. just thing like about the insurance, if there were any major problems, and what were the jumps constructed from, just mud? or any wooden or concrete foundations?

this is really important to me and my mates, so any help, greatly appreciated.

cheers...
dan

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HaHo · June 2007

Insurance is the biggie.
I know it's hard to insure dirt jumps and North Shore. Most people who do things like this set up a club, then the club can get insurance - rather than insuring the trails and everyone that uses them.

And yeah, just use mud and a digger.

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danhargrave7 · June 2007

by set up a club what do you mean? as in charge everyone who uses it? or just get like 20 of us to put say œ15 in each month or whatever?

we were thinking of doing that.

thanks anyway

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Anonymous · June 2007

What would be the legal standing if you were to put giant warning signs by the entrance to wherever you're going to build them, stating clearly that bikers ride the jumps at their own risk. The council, nor the organisers accept no liability etc.

Would that cover one's posterior enough, or is the blame culture far too ingrained these days?

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Mike Skinner · June 2007

no, you can put as many signs up as you like claiming no liability, but they count for very little if some-one gets hurt.

However providing insurance etc will show a court you have taken 'reasonable measures' to ensure peoples safety.

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lacuna · June 2007

Building dirt jumps on Council land is nigh on impossible.

Me and my friends were in a similar position to you about 8 years ago. We formed a 'club' and had regular meetings with a Council Youth projects officer and the Community Police Officer. We identified 3 plots of land that would be suitable, chose a preferred option and designed a track along with a trials area.

To fund building the track we organised ourselves into a display team and performed at approx. 20 charitable events and were sponsored by Durham Agency Against Crime, Securicor and MX1. We were also given 2 development grants and in total had œ5000 to build the track. (We also had a trials trailer and a pretty good set of ramps).

So, we had the plot of land and the money. We also had various organisations willing to volunteer in helping to build the track but it never happened. The insurance barrier just couldn't be crossed. It took us 3 years of work and we got nothing and that was 8 years ago. If you want to do it now you're stuffed, sorry.

You would be much better off trying to build trails on forestry commision land as the insurance aspect is different (can't remember why).

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