FAO Those in the know about trombones

roryf
roryf Posts: 1,335
edited July 2007 in The Crudcatcher
I'm interested in the Conn 88H K CL and the Conn 88H CL.
I was wondering what the difference of the 9" bell to the 8.5" bell makes to the sound and feel of the instrument?
Yes I've registered on a trombone forum and emailed Conn, but am yet to recieve replies.

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  • Jonnyp1
    Jonnyp1 Posts: 13
    I'm not sure about the difference in bell size, but good choice with Conn. i have a Conn trumpet and my friend has a Conn Trombone and their both really nice.
  • Lewis
    Lewis Posts: 246
    An uneducated guess would be that the sound would be more crisp?

    Smaller cone - faster vibration, so I reckon it'd just be a more punchy, thin tone, the 9" being warmer and deeper.

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  • -Stone 3-
    -Stone 3- Posts: 114
    Get a Bach (i think they do trombones)
    i have a bach stradavarius trumpet-its mint

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  • roryf
    roryf Posts: 1,335
    Bach do make trombones, but I want a Conn not a Bach. I much prefer the Conns.
  • -Stone 3-
    -Stone 3- Posts: 114
    ok.

    Why does a climber climb mount everest? Beacuase it's there
  • Jonnyp1
    Jonnyp1 Posts: 13
    I've tried a Conn and a Stradivarius and the Conn is much better, but then again, it all depends on the player. Conn's are right for me, Maybe not you.
  • roryf
    roryf Posts: 1,335
    I've decided now which one I want anyway. I want the 88H CL. But I now need to see where is cheapest to buy it. Might even be cheaper from the US? What would be the deal with import tax etc?
  • Lewis
    Lewis Posts: 246
    How much is it? I don't know much about the weight and size of a trombone etc, but when I bought my Tonic frame for œ300 I paid about œ100 import tax, so keep that in mind.

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    Norco.
    Tonic Fabrication.
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    Tonic Fabrication.
  • roryf
    roryf Posts: 1,335
    Sounds nasty. Gonna end up between 1150 and 1300, plus 50 shipping (that's pounds). So it would appear I'm looking at alot of import tax. Might stick with a UK seller.
  • Lewis
    Lewis Posts: 246
    Yeah, at that cost I'd stick with UK, I mean a lot of people told me I probably would have to pay tax or it would be X amount of money, but there's always the risk you'll get screwed over.

    I was looking at getting my Nord piano shipped over here becuase of US prices, but I was getting quoted upwards of œ300 for tax, which completely eliminates any savings.

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    Norco.
    Tonic Fabrication.
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    Norco.
    Tonic Fabrication.
  • Jamie@AC
    Jamie@AC Posts: 752
    First of all, buy them from Normans. Best place in the UK really for Conn. I'm not going to explain the differences between the effects of half and inch change in bell size but go for the 8.5". 9 inch bells should be kept to bass trombones really. If you did get the 9" then I don't think you would be as blown away by the Conn, the 8.5" does the job!

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  • roryf
    roryf Posts: 1,335
    Yeah, I said in my post above that I've chosen the 88H CL - that is the one with the 8.5" bell. I emailed Normans on thursday for a quote, along with a few other companies.
    Why a 9" bell for a bass trombone? _Every_ bass trombone I've seen has a 9.5" bell, minimum. The 88H K CL is just an 88H CL with a King 5B bell. A 5B is also a tenor trombone, not a bass.
  • wwjjtt
    wwjjtt Posts: 204
    wow thats got more replys than some bike threads! lol
  • wow you just pointlessly brought up an old thread.
  • Based on my experiences with my tuba, a smaller cone gives a shallower crisper sound, whereas a bigger bell gives a warmer more rounded sound.