homebrew brake pads?

red eye
red eye Posts: 264
edited August 2007 in MTB general
boredom strikes! i have a piece of brake pad off a car and some old used mtb brake pads. im thinkig of cutting the bake material to size and sticking it to the old pads just cos im bored.

what can i use to stick the braking material to the old pad? and would it work?

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  • randomize
    randomize Posts: 48
    superglue? lol
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  • red eye
    red eye Posts: 264
    lol i think i'd like to stop not crash. i was thinking of that weldtight stuff that i fixed my leaking petrol tank and broken filler cap with. just dug it out and its called leak fix hmmmm not sure i want to use that
  • haroexone
    haroexone Posts: 165
    araldite epoxy resin for metal might work.also superglue would be just as good as anything else-dry glue is dry! if anything works at all,id be very surprised
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  • RobA
    RobA Posts: 151
    This does sound like a good idea, but, how would you cut the pads to the right size and thickness?

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  • red eye
    red eye Posts: 264
    trusty old drimmel, i just took all the braking material off the old pads with an old screwdriver and hammer then sanded the rest off.

    im going to cut the pads with the drimmel's grinding disk. then for the thickness im just gonna stick them to the pad and grind them down on a grinding wheel
  • Flurry
    Flurry Posts: 698
    Discs or rim brakes?


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  • red eye
    red eye Posts: 264
    disk
  • mongooseTE17
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    It might work but its alot of hassle.

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  • HaHo
    HaHo Posts: 630
    I imagine (if you do manage to stick them) that the car pad compound is going to be much much harder than a normal bike pad - think how much force goes into a car pad vs a bike pad. Probably not worth the effort, but if you're that bored...

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  • Pigchops
    Pigchops Posts: 91
    You must be *very* bored! But I'm interested to learn how you get on...
  • gerallt
    gerallt Posts: 49
    It'll probably eat your disc, but you never know, worth it you've got nothing better to do

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  • red eye
    red eye Posts: 264
    i'll keep you posted! if it works or not im gonna go shopping tomorrow for the glue so if all goes to plan i'd have them on my bike by friday but while im out shopping would motorbike suspension oil be ok for my bomber z5's? might aswell service my forks and headset while i got my tools out

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    Mmm how are you going to get the pad faces parallel? dont forget to get a bonding agent that can cope with high tempuratures.

    as long as the oil is the correct weight and does not have seal swelling agents in it then it should be fine. 7.5wt before you ask.

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    i was thinking of a 5wt oil as im a light weight would something like slikoline have seal swellers? cos i dont think it would say in the bottle.
    regarding the pad face as long as its roughly parallel the high spots would just get worn away in the bedding in process so the plan in my head says..but then agine the pads might buckle in the calliper good point!
    i remember seeing a putty in local motor factors. they stuck a washer in a blob attached to a chain and no mater how hard you pull it wont separate i'll have a closer look tomorrow its only 99p
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    but that "putty" is no good at high temps.

    have fun.

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  • red eye
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    im not sure but this putty is for everything like ducktape. im sure the guy told me that it could be used for fixing cracks on an exhaust manifold so it should be ok on the pads since manifolds get a lot hotter then brake discs. i shall have a closer look before i buy.

    if it works then thats œ15 for a set of mk2 polo car pads and you can make 16 bike pads out of a set that makes it œ16 thats œ1 a pad..im all about saving money me!
  • Crazy Dave C
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    Won't it just fall apart when you try and cut the bits of pad to size?
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  • red eye
    red eye Posts: 264
    well this piece came of a brake pad i whacked full force with a sledge hammer at college and that broke in 3 bits so cutting would hopefully be ok
  • red eye
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    im gonna hold you to that! but you have to admit it did and will kill a bit of spare time and make use of these bits and bobs laying around
  • 37714
    37714 Posts: 18
    I've often wondered why a pair of tiny brake pads for a bike cost more than a set of four pads for a car. Is there anything really special about them, or is it just a case of "we'll charge what we like because you're willing to pay it"?

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  • red eye
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    well what i seen so far the bike pads are more matalic a gold colour the car pads are a sinted resin fiber type material a gray black colour. maybe bike pads work better with the amount of force the bike setups capable of i wont be ble to tell you till i have tried them. im aiming to have them ready and installed by this friday

    as for the price its because car pads are more popular as a manufacture use the same brake set up for most of its range some brake are even the same as other makes of cars just like car tyres. if there were other comapnys like pagid, mintex, ferodo ate etc etc out there that would make pads for bike that would be compition for the likes hope avid shimarno driving prices down, well thats my theory anyway.

    who know i might start a craze and every one would make there own pads if enough people stop buying pads maybe they will put there prices down
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by red eye</i>

    im not sure but this putty is for everything like ducktape. im sure the guy told me that it could be used for fixing cracks on an exhaust manifold so it should be ok on the pads since manifolds get a lot hotter then brake discs. i shall have a closer look before i buy.
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by red eye</i>

    i was thinking of a 5wt oil as im a light weight would something like slikoline have seal swellers? cos i dont think it would say in the bottle.
    regarding the pad face as long as its roughly parallel the high spots would just get worn away in the bedding in process so the plan in my head says..but then agine the pads might buckle in the calliper good point!
    i remember seeing a putty in local motor factors. they stuck a washer in a blob attached to a chain and no mater how hard you pull it wont separate i'll have a closer look tomorrow its only 99p


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    Remember to wear a dust mask when you're cutting the pad material. That stuff is pure EVIL if you inhale the dust.

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    This experiment has the potential for lots of pain. make sure you film the test ride [:p]

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    One question - why?!
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by yeehaamcgee</i>

    Remember to wear a dust mask when you're cutting the pad material. That stuff is pure EVIL if you inhale the dust.

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  • red eye
    red eye Posts: 264
    ok im still alive i didt crash!!
    the pads have not come apart after hard brakeing. it has good bite right out the box tho it does not lift the back wheel under hard brakeing might need some more bedding in.

    hamboman like 37714 said in his/her post why do bike pads cost the same or more then car pads
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    Lets see the pics then.

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