Which Hydro Disc Set to get ?

Scubar

Hi

I bought a Marin Hawkhill recently and have been upgrading bits and bobs on it for the last month so i can get it perfect to how i want it. It came with the Hayes Sole disc set with silver levers. I was going to buy the BFL levers as they are black and would match the rest of the bike aswellas being two finger. I have heard that the Hayes sole are crap so would like to get a new disc set instead. I quite like the Avid Juicys but not sure if they are good or not. Basically i want some decent discs that arent too pricey and still have black calipers/levers to match the rest of the bike.

Thanks
Scubar

diver-boy

hayes 9, very cheap, powerful, perhaps not much feel, have dual pistons unlike soles!

mongooseTE17

Budget? Type of riding? Juicy 5's are excellent. hfx 9's are ok but lack modulation. Never tried saints but have tried deore, there fine but im not a fan of mineral oil brakes.

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Paul

XT M765/Saint if you want them black
Hayes HFX-9
Juicy


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ddoogie

Shimano XTs. You can pick up a full set with levers for œ160 or so from CRC or Merlin.

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jAckAsS o__0

If you've got loads of money, then get the Avid Juicy Ultimates.
Or the 5's, or the 7's or the Carbons.
They're all great but vary in price alot..

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Shimano XTs. You can pick up a full set with levers for œ160 or so from CRC or Merlin.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Or œ125 from Wiggle, but I don't think they're in stock

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Scubar

XC riding, i currently have a Marin Hawkhill with a few upgrades

Marzocci MZ comps are now Rockshox Recon 351 U-Turns,
Alivio chainset now upgraded to Shimano Deore 27 speed.
Bracer MTB Suspension Seatpost

.Not sure what the differences are between the Avid Juicys, they do look really nice. I wouldnt want to spend more than œ200 on the set but would stretch a tiny bit more if they were really worth it.

Suggestions ?

mongooseTE17

Go for juciy 7's then.

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The Big Cheese

Now, I may be wrong re: Juicys but you have variants:

Juicy 3's: which are OE (can't be bought after market (come on complete bikes) apart from Chain Reaction Cycles perhaps)

Juicy 5's: Slightly better (and more expensive)

Juicy 7's: Better still (and again, more expensive)

Juicy Carbons: Same as Juicy 7's buy with carbon levers etc - dearer still (have them on my bike - see pics)

Juicy Ultimates: tres cool buy tres expensive as well

Look around on t'interweb - you can get good deals from the likes of CRC/Wiggle etc

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snook

The juicy 3s are on sale here also:

shop.ride-central.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=161&zenid=72c95bdec0254510d6400f0c0f0adb03

I haven't had a problem finding them at places other than Chain Reaction cycles.

The Big Cheese

Think you have a faulty link mate!

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Scubar

Ok Juicy 7s seem to be the best option, Only trouble is that i cant seem to find them in black. the actual lever is silver but i have seen the Avid juicys with full black levers and calipers ( no silver at all ) Only Avids i can find with full black levers are the Avid Code and they seem abit OTT on the price.

The Big Cheese

the all black brakes are the ultimates

THE STEED - 2007 Marin Indian Fire Trail

Scubar

Ouch they are quite abit more expensive, even the Codes are cheaper and meant to be just as good.

gouldie

get the avid juicy 3s, seriously. they are exactly the same as last years juicy 5s and they are œ120 the pair!! what more do you want?! o and they are completly black - just like you wanted.

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

gouldie

i have the juicy 3 on my bike - check the pic!

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

Scubar

OK i will look into the Juicy 3s, Also i have just ordered a Set of the Rockshox Recon 351 U Turns as the ones they had on display looked really nice and didnt have the mounts for v brakes, Am i right in thinking that they werent the correct ones or were the Solo Air ? because all the Recon pictures ive seen have those mounts on which i dont want. If not then How are the Revelation 426 U Turns ?

gouldie

i personally would go for these:

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=13123

they are around œ70 more than the forks you are looking at, but its worth it. if they are good enough for chris smith, they are good enough for us mere mortals!

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

Scubar

Yea i did look at the Pikes but they seem abit OTT for the kind of riding i do, I think the Revelation 426s look like a good choice for me, I will also look at the Avid Juicy 3s unless i get greedy and splash out on the Codes. See how much money i have to spare in a weeks time.

gouldie

what type of riding do you do?

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

Scubar

I live near quite a few hills which have good x country and downhill paths on them. My mind is pretty set on the Revelation 426 U-Turns now. Just the brakes i will have to decide about now.

gouldie

like i said earlier you cant go wrong with the juicy 3s. if you go for them, you will probably have some spare cash to get braided hoses. ie goodrige, hel etc.

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

Scubar

Ok i found a set on wiggle, the goodridge black ones, they dont list the Juicy 3s on there but im guessing the Juicy 5/7 2005+

Will they make a big difference or mainly just durability ?

Model GMTB108 ?

http://wiggle.co.uk/ProductDetail.aspx? ... Hose%20Kit

gouldie

they will make the brakes feel better, perform better, and yes, they are not likely to split when you eat dust.

if you send wiggle an email they should be able to tell you whether the hoses will fit the juicy 3s. if they dont ask them what ones will...

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

gouldie

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... delID=8376



dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/

Scubar

Thanks, ive emailed wiggle about the goodridge set. Just waiting on a reply.

Scubar

I have found the Juicy 3s to buy so im going to get a set with some new hoses,

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=16784

wwjjtt

hope mono m4 07, braided hoses. 203 rotor. ignore the avid hype.

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not so custom stinky->http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1341407/

Scubar

Yea i got recommended them first but i dont like the look of them at all, the rotors look ugly and the levers arent black. Ive made my orders now anyway

Avid Juicy 3's 185mm rotor W/Goodridge Hoses
Rockshox Recon 351 U-Turns W/Poploc

Im sure ill find something to upgrade soon anyway, maybe some new hubs and rims

I could use some new decent tyres actually.

gouldie

can you send me a link for the hoses you got please as i would like some for my brakes. cheers, and im glad you have brought what you want.

dont steal, the government dont like competition!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/1286070/