Hypothetical Legal Advice

FurryNipples
FurryNipples Posts: 1,384
edited June 2007 in The Crudcatcher
Say some old friends have since turned into stoner retards.

One evening a few weeks ago, they came uninvited on to my property in the dead of night. They covered the next door neighbours wall in lard (has luckily gone unnoticed), stole a chair from somewhere and covered it in lard, leaving in my driveway in the way of the gate and had planned to cover the family L200 in lard but were spooked as the outside lights were on. I know all this, because they told me about a week later thinking it was the most hilarious thing ever and that they had also planned to climb in a window from atop my garage, again 'as a joke'.

Obviously this would displease me, but I am a polite soul and partially laughed it off.

Till recently. I heard from a VERY reliable source, (namely the stonerscumf<u></u>ucks themselves) that another vandalism has been planned for the L200 again very soon. It's TT week now, so it is bound to happen some time this week.

What, if anything am I allowed to do to them if they are found on my property? I want them to regret ever breaking into my garden and threatening to break into my house again, with as much pain as possible.

This is all hypothetical of course.

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  • RobA
    RobA Posts: 151
    Shotgun or a sniper rifle.
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  • nirveous
    nirveous Posts: 79
    If you know how to, break their legs.
    You can then say that because they were stoned, they were climbing onto things, and in that state, they fell off.

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  • UH DH
    UH DH Posts: 4,160
    Jump leads, and wire up any metal fencing you have to the mains.

    Lock gates into drive and smear grease on all fencing.

    Leave door to an outbuilding/garage open so they go inside but butter the floor.

    Set up webcams to record what they are doing, then use it as blackmail.

    Take a slab out of the garden path, dig pit underneath, fill with oil, water and red food colouring. Make fake slab out of polystyrene and place over pit.

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  • rubber side up
    rubber side up Posts: 2,150
    Contact the police. i know you are allowed to use "reasonable force". but i'm thinking that reasonable force depends on the area you live in.

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  • me_groovy
    me_groovy Posts: 2,877
    I'm loving the electrified front gate idea. can you not put the car in the garage? Or do something to their cars?

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  • nirveous
    nirveous Posts: 79
    Also, lard?
    WTF?

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  • UH DH
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    Get hold of a weedsprayer bottle.

    Take several packs of hot chillies, grind into a paste, mix into a pot of water. Add food colouring, washing up liquid, fresh ginger and curry powder. Boil for a while, strain the bits out and fill the weedsprayer with the mix.

    Spray them when theycome into your garden. Its bound to sting. Aim for the eyes.

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  • Dodgex1
    Dodgex1 Posts: 1,306
    "Reasonable Force" is allowed as mentioned but at the end of the day it comes down to discression, if they're about to put lard on your car and you jump out of a bush and cave their head in with a bat I don't think its down as reasonable. Get a car cover as a mild deterrent, as you said you've already got outside lights and sticking a webcam/security camera (Can get them for about 100quid from argos now-not fantastic but do the job) isn't unfeasable.

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  • Big Red S
    Big Red S Posts: 26,890
    You're not allowed to do much to them, really. You may defend yourself with reasonable force, but I'm not certain you're even allowed to apply force to remove them.
    I'd go with balancing heavy things precariously, leaving bare live wires lying around etc. (keep pets out...)
    Alternatively, tell the police. They'll not do anything now, but then you can record the event and give them the footage.

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  • UH DH
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    You can set up a standard cheapy webcam to turn on when it detects motion. Theres a program on the web that does that. It detects motion, pulls the computer out of standby and sets it recording.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by the abductor</i>
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  • St.D1ckie
    St.D1ckie Posts: 982
    use a camcorder or similar to record them breaking into your property, turn camera off.

    baseball bat, aim for the knees.

    call police.

    They will be stoned so wont remember much, and it'll be their word against yours, but you will have evidence of them breaking an entry so you'll have the upper hand.

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  • Jonnyp1
    Jonnyp1 Posts: 13
    I'm no physicist (coming from a physics A level student) but surely you could connect the actual car to the mains somehow? that'd give 'em a shock.

    Pun intended.
  • El Capitano
    El Capitano Posts: 6,400
    Do they have to climb over a fence over 6ft high to get into your garden/property?

    If so, put carpet grippers all around the top of the walls. Not only will it shred their hands, but it does leave some nice DNA traces for the Police to trace them with. This is perfectly legal - I was informed to do this by the local CID after the last break-in on the shed.

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  • Big Red S
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    The car's electrics would love that....

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  • Jonnyp1
    Jonnyp1 Posts: 13
    hmmm.....well, i'm clearly well prepared for my physics exams on friday
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by El Capitano</i>

    Do they have to climb over a fence over 6ft high to get into your garden/property?

    If so, put carpet grippers all around the top of the walls. Not only will it shred their hands, but it does leave some nice DNA traces for the Police to trace them with. This is perfectly legal - I was informed to do this by the local CID after the last break-in on the shed.

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    liking this idea.. could try and submerge them slightly as well, or put them on the garden side of the fence so as they are less obvious from the outside

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  • Mattie
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Big Red S</i>

    You're not allowed to do much to them, really. You may defend yourself with reasonable force, but I'm not certain you're even allowed to apply force to remove them.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

    Depends, if they're on your propety without your permission, they're illegally there.

    Put two and two together. If someone is illegally on your property it's my honest held belief that you can get them off any way you see fit without injuring them.

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  • UH DH
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    Hideous tentacle rape.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by the abductor</i>
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  • mr kirk
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    have you <i>never</i> seen home alone?

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  • stick
    stick Posts: 2,910
    you could make your front garden into a midnight fairground for stoners. Some trip wires here and there, carpet grippers, and to top it off, you with a hosepipe or jetwash. Bucket of ice cubes thrown out a window.
    OR park your car somewhere else on the night.

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  • UH DH
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    Follow the shirt ninja instructions, and scare the comestibles out of them.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by the abductor</i>
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  • mr pie man 2
    mr pie man 2 Posts: 2,500
    Instead of carpet grippers use 5/6" nails nailed thorugh a peice of wood, a friend has this and many chunks of fleash have been found on it. Also trip wires around the car and once there down stick some sort of bag on their heads (Preferably material and not plastic so they don't suffocate but thats up to you) tie them up and ring police.

    A beating may be in order before the police arrive or simply chuck the in a jypo site or something still tied up and avoid the fuzz.

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    This is on the Isle of Man, of course, where everyone is ga<s></s>y. Bug<s></s>ger them dry.

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  • Sno_man517
    Sno_man517 Posts: 10
    if you are going to use any recordings as evidence i think you need to have a timestamp

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  • mr kirk
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    Instead of carped grippers, used syringes with HIV+ blood on them, they are druggies so people ownt suspect you ( aslong as you dispose of the needles ) then they will die in a comical fashion.


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  • Anonymous
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    If you put spikes up you have t have a warning sign up to I think. It will be dark, so they won;t see it,but I'm pretty sure you have to have one.

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    Butter the floor, you know it makes sense.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by homers double</i>

    Butter the floor, you know it makes sense.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DavesNotHere</i>


    KNOW YOUR DOPE FIEND. YOUR LIFE MAY DEPEND ON IT! You will not be able to see his eyes because of Tea-Shades, but his knuckles will be white from inner tension and his pants will be crustedwith semen from constantly jacking off when he can't find a rape victim. He will staggerr and babble when questioned. He will not respect your badge. The Dope Fiend fears nothing. He will attack, for no reason, with every weapon at his command - including yours. BEWARE.
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