Today I'm going to ask for a raise...

DJIP
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edited May 2007 in The Crudcatcher
...but I'm going to suggest an amount because I know otherwise I'll get like 10p or something.

I'm absolutely sh<u></u>itting myself, so I was wondering if, from your experiences, is there a certain manner in which you should go about these things?

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  • homers_double
    homers_double Posts: 8,325
    Unless you can justify your request, keep quiet.

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    The wet kipper round the face always goes down a treat.
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  • euan_333
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    Dress in a very revealing manner?

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  • DJIP
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    I've just gotten a load of qualifications so I'm a "qualified administrator", I think that justifies more money, plus the fact they are paying me an office juniors wage when they said I wasn't going to be that any more.

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  • JinjaNinja
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    Yeah, its not too common a thing to do. Most people look for a real payed job instead. You could always say "I'm going for a new job inless you pay me. ..blahh blah. etc.."

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    I used some blueberry flavoured one we got from the free clinic once
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DJIP</i>

    I've just gotten a load of qualifications so I'm a "qualified administrator", I think that justifies more money, plus the fact they are paying me an <b>office juniors wage when they said I wasn't going to be that any more.</b>
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    Say that too. I don't thing the qualifications instantly mean you get money goodness, I think you get a better job with said qualifications.

    <hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><font color="green"><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NeillyB</i>
    I used some blueberry flavoured one we got from the free clinic once
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JinjaNinja</i>

    You could always say "I'm going for a new job inless you pay me. ..blahh blah. etc.."
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    Thats the easiest way for an employer to turn round and say "Fine, look somewhere else and we'll find new staff".

    Nobody is irreplaceable.

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  • Tartanyak
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    Aye, never bluff like that. Just move jobs if you're thinking like that.

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  • robb_o
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    I remember reading somewhere once that there are days of the week that you are more likely to succeed with asking for a raise...

    I remember the day Monday being on it, but it might have been the best day, or the worst :-
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  • i got a rise by comlaining that the guy in the office was beigh a corr blimey to me and i couldnt cope with it (i was on an apprenticeship) and i said i wanted to leave because of him.

    extre œ15 a week just like that =D

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  • DJIP
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    I was kinda hoping of around the œ12,000 mark as a lady at the recruitment agency said I should really be on that kind of money due to my qualifications and experience. [B)]

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  • robb_o
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    how old are you?
    what are you doing?!?

    12k is VERY low if it's any sort of 'decent' job.

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  • DJIP
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    I'm an administrator in an accountants firm, I've been here 2 years. You think œ12,000 is low, I'm only on œ9,000 at the moment!

    EDIT: And I'm 19, almost 20.

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    You do get paid for sitting around at the forums all day though [;)]

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  • JinjaNinja
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    Its always the job not the qualifications. From what I can tell they don't pay your much as you don't do much. I suggested the "i'll get another job if you don't..." to see if they are willing to pay you more in the same position. If not its hunt time.

    <hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><font color="green"><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NeillyB</i>
    I used some blueberry flavoured one we got from the free clinic once
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  • You're SOOOO not going to get a 33% pay rise...

    Why not just go somewhere else if you have the qualifications?

    Just to put a damper on things, you'd get more working full time in McDonalds. Seriously, look for something else. Your future will be feckered if you don't start earning higher soon.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cerberus</i>

    I blocked my toilet up the other day.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cerberus</i>

    I blocked my toilet up the other day.

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  • DJIP
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    Ah well, I'll just get a new job.

    The only reason I'm on here all the time is because there is never anything to do until after Summer.

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  • robb_o
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    Move on, seriously.
    You have 2 years experience to get you places.

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  • 37714
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    However, once you've applied and been accepted for a new job, talk to your boss - Occasionally they'll be willing to match/exceed the money because it can be less hassle than training someone new.

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  • Tartanyak
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    Unless there's not a huge amount to training to be done to make tea and surf [:D]

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by 37714</i>

    However, once you've applied and been accepted for a new job, talk to your boss - Occasionally they'll be willing to match/exceed the money because it can be less hassle than training someone new.

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    Probably not 3,000 per annue

    <hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><font color="green"><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NeillyB</i>
    I used some blueberry flavoured one we got from the free clinic once
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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tartanyak</i>

    Unless there's not a huge amount to training to be done to make tea and surf [:D]

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    Ha ha! Yes, well tbh there isn't much to be trained on except how to use some really out of date software that no one else uses anymore and how to make peoples drink the way they like them.

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  • robb_o
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    Oh, we havent asked how many hours you do a week?

    This could well be a PART-TIME job...

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by robb_o</i>

    Oh, we havent asked how many hours you do a week?

    This could well be a PART-TIME job...
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    It's not.

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  • you have to make people drinks? I would never ever serve someone like that.

    During my degree I always wondered if it was worth it... seems it was!

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cerberus</i>

    I blocked my toilet up the other day.

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    I blocked my toilet up the other day.

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  • T1berious
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    To the OP, If you've got some recent qualifications but you're working on archaic software you may find that your real world experience might not be up to your salary expectations. Yes it isn't the greatest salary in the world and your giving the impression that they don't really work you to the bone.

    You've got age on your side so by all means look for a new job but be realistic regarding your qualifications / experience v desired salary.



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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by i_used_2b_fukpigonabike</i>

    you have to make people drinks? I would never ever serve someone like that.

    During my degree I always wondered if it was worth it... seems it was!

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cerberus</i>

    I blocked my toilet up the other day.

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    Hee hee, I get payed more then most people with qualifications in my office!

    <hr noshade size="1"><font size="1"><font color="green"><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NeillyB</i>
    I used some blueberry flavoured one we got from the free clinic once
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    Contracting for the win

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by i_used_2b_fukpigonabike</i>

    You're SOOOO not going to get a 33% pay rise...

    Why not just go somewhere else if you have the qualifications?

    Just to put a damper on things, you'd get more working full time in McDonalds. Seriously, look for something else. Your future will be feckered if you don't start earning higher soon.

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Cerberus</i>

    I blocked my toilet up the other day.

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    True, but at least this gives the impression to future employers that she has a real job. McD's is not a real job.

    H, you might want to mention what you said to us a little while back, about how you have no money left over once you've paid your food and rent, and perhaps mention you're looking to move out so you'd have to start paying real rent, not what your parents charge you. I dunno though, I'm no expert at these things, but that does show to them you don't just want it so you can buy some new dresses but because you can't really get by without it.
    If you don't get it, or don't get much, I'd look for a new job. 9k is appallingly bad.

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  • Anonymous
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    They will probably decline because you;ve let them walk all over you all this time.

    Tell them you feel you need to be earning 12k to be able to comfortably cover your cost of living. If they reject, go somewhere else.

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