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Nurseries, childhood mishaps and diseases, schools, universities, teenagers, grandchildren, etc.... go on, knock yourself out!
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Thanks Brian - I will read this if ever suffer from insomnia...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Not sure such snideness is warranted. There was a discussion on the politics thread about the merits or otherwise of early years nursery attendance which feels warranted, as without more youngsters in the country (which drives seemingly the most contentious political subject at the moment - immigration) we'll all have to look after ourselves when we're old and senile, and nursery costs are a serious consideration for those looking to provide the next generation. Obviously, if such discussions are of no interest to you then you don't have to contribute.
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Sorry if snideness was read into it - none implied. As I say, I'm a professional child brain kidnapper.
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Was going to say. Or is it too much like talking shop?
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Obviously parents have a completely different perspective on the whole business, and it's utterly understandable that children often mean absolutely everything to parents. I see that from the other side of equation, with parents who will do anything to help their children. One of the nicest comments I had recently was from a mum who said she'd happily pay double what I charge because of what her daughter gets out of her lessons (of which the musical element is not the major bit).
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Given she already pays me quite nicely for a very small musical output, I could put the icing on the cake by teaching her daughter this...
Seriously, one of the pleasures of teaching (I hate that word) is that you do change people's lives... it might seem like a cliché, but it's true. Hopefully, most of the time, it's for the better: sometimes you get direct feedback from pupils or parents, but most of the time you never know. Whatever, it's an honour (and a pleasure) to be entrusted with helping mould the squidgy grey stuff between their ears.
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One thing, I’m not sure of…..
Do parents go out to breed future tax payers, or do they just want a ‘ickle baba?
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Adoption is the solution to that one!
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Teaching isn't a bad option either. I've never had to change a nappy.
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My wife made me do it 😄
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I think we know the answer to that, but some people like to claim they're doing their duty for the nation.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Loved having young kids - sometimes think if I found an abandoned baby I'd just keep it - is it like dogs where you have to inform a local warden ?
[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Which is the appropriate thread to discuss the Tory policy of free nursery for 2 year olds currently being implemented by Labour?
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You're ready to be a grandfather.
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Sorry. I guess "knock yourself out" can be read many ways!
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I think there's a whole host of reasons tbh. My M-i-L jokes (I think) that her motivation for having kids was to prove to her and her friends that she was better at being a parent, as she took a dim view of her friends' parenting skills.
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Best of all worlds. The reward for having been a parent. 😉
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Seeing as I made the original comment: I think individual choices and reasons are one thing and the view a government might take at a national level is another. People like to say that they don't want to be a burden on their children (myself included) but let's be real. Almost by definition, the very young and the very old are going to be provided for by everyone in the middle. Taxes and the welfare system are just a way of more evenly distributing that care and cost than relying on direct family alone. I don't think a government can influence people's individual decisions that much, but equally, they can't ignore the cumulative effect of those decisions.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I think the government has more influence than you might think. From what I've read, the high cost of housing is a major impediment to young couples starting a family. Far more houses could be built (and unless the economics of "supply and demand" could be suspended) housing costs would fall, if government policy was to override NIMBYs etc. who for whatever reason don't like new houses being built.
[Cancel "Rick Chasey Mode"]
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Some fascinating and somewhat counterintuitive stats here.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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To save me second-guessing, which of the stats (and counter-positions) did you have in mind from that doc? Thanks.
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My (untested) theory is that people in more precarious situations have more children. There are two peaks in the second set of figures, with most births to NS-SeC classes 2, 3 and 6.
Classes 2 and 3 are having their children about 10 years later than their class 6 peers.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Thanks. Tricky to track the impact of housing costs from a "point in time" analysis though.
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I think this is good news. The idea that parents should make decisions based on a one-off grade from 1-4 on something as complex and dynamic as a school is nuts, and not crediting parents with the ability to understand more than a one-word summary is insulting.
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Could have gone in the 'Labour in charge' thread, but more interested in views of parents with 'skin in the game' now or during this system of grading.
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A mild problem I have with ofsted is I don't always agree with them on what makes a good school, but to get the parents involved does not sound sensible to me.
They already have representation on the board of the school.
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Would agree the current Ofsted grading is needlessly reductive. It wasn't remotely useful in helping us choose a school.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition1 -
I don't think that tweet is implying that, just making the process/report less behind closed doors and more accessible to understand.
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