andyp said:Wout Van Aert to go for 2nd in GC at the Giro?
Wout Van Aert to go for 2nd in GC at the Giro?
Not sure if it happened over the forum shutdown but Pog doing the Giro-Tour double at the expense of the classics is a real shame.
My view is we lose out in both the classics and the Tour as he doesn’t attend one and will struggle with fatigue in the Tour - not least as Vingers has proven he is stronger than Pog in week three.
The gap between the Giro and Tour is bigger than usual because of the Olympics - in fact exactly the same gap as when Pantani did the double in 1998…
The Tour is a week earlier than normal due to the Olympics, so are you sure the gap between the Giro and the Tour is bigger than usual? If so the Giro must be 2+ weeks earlier than normal.
Random ramblings of an ageing mind...
Maybe he is using the Giro as a training camp. If he happens to win so much the better.
PB is the most sensible person on here.
Are you sure? It looks like it's 5 weeks next year, which is the same as this past season.
Vingegaard's biggest safety net has been WVA in the Tour. The moment you lose time to Jonas, you're in big trouble because you cannot attack him from distance because he has WVA up the road to always tow him back to you.
This leads to you having to put enormous effort from the beginning of the Tour to try and take time on him ahead of mountain TT's or the big mountain stages.
With Wout not going to the Tour next year, it's the best opportunity Pogacar will have in a while to reclaim the Tour. Even if he feels he could beat him every year, Tours without WVA will be easier to win against Vingegaard than Tours with WVA riding for Jonas.
Imho it's a big planning mistake that now might give Remco his best opportunity so far ever.
Heard it on the cycling podcast
Why debate it when Google is available?
Giro d'Italia finishes on 26/05/2024, early.
TdF starts 29/06/2024, early. Five weeks in-between.
And in 98?
At the moment he appears to be committed to 2 and a half monuments, so I think that talk of missing the classics is a bit off.
Do you actually mean the cobbled classics in the way that a boomer might talk about the British Universities: both of them.
MVDP form going into the classics season is off the frickin' charts
He's going to start every race as massive favourite
We could be about to see something very special
That's a bold prediction: 33 days to Het Volk nevermind the 'important' stuff.
Tell you what
I'll be bolder.
Accident or incident excepted he'll do the MSR, Roubaix, Flanders treble
That's two huge exceptions that cover pretty much everything.
He could ride into a lamppost.
That does seem to slow him down momentarily
I predicted this back in 2021 after he dropped that wattage bazooka at Strade Bianche. Considered putting a line on at the bookies and everything.
Turns out winning all three is a lot harder than it looks 😂. As good as this generation of riders is I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if any of them won all 3 in a single season.
To be fair to @tailwindhome (and MVDP) he placed 1st, 2nd and 1st in those three races last season.
Gee doing Giro and TDF this year, according to beeb.
Do you mean going for the double (which hasn't been done since 1998)?
Going for a podium finish double more likely. Beat Pogacar and Vingegaard? Nah.
Riding GC at the Giro and a support role at the Tour
Presumably for Carlos and Piddington.
That would be quite the achievement.... Competitive in all 3 perhaps
C'mon @mididoctors "Competitive in all 3" isn't really saying much. 😉