Espresso Machines

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  • What is "Italian" coffee - do they use a different type of heat to roast beans grown in the tropics?
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,383
    Partly Robusta is included with the Arabica,

    Mostly a different "type" of heat. Way more of it for way longer...

    The rest is just knowing how to work the machine, making small quality shots rather than blooming big horrible ones that have to cut through a pint of milk
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  • sub2
    sub2 Posts: 22
    My understanding is “Italian “ is a dark roast.
    Anyway, never expect decent coffee outside unless the guy ( Barista) crafting it has a beard and is wearing a brown cotton apron.
  • ddraver said:

    Partly Robusta is included with the Arabica,

    Mostly a different "type" of heat. Way more of it for way longer...

    The rest is just knowing how to work the machine, making small quality shots rather than blooming big horrible ones that have to cut through a pint of milk

    I would take 'Italian coffee' as shorthand for consistent product, as Italians won't tolerate cr@p coffee at all. Like USAnians have their second amendment for guns, the equivalent for Italians would be good coffee.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,289
    Italian coffee is a dark roast, not sure of the precise blend, and a proper short espresso.
    If you order a coffee in Italy the default should be an espresso, you shouldn't have to specify. Unfortunately this is no longer the case in a lot of touristy places.
  • Yeah, its shorthand for dark coffee.

    Controversial I know, but American having lived in the Pacific NW and suffered the true unrelenting dampness of their autumns and winters, giant vats of multi-shot Americano makes a lot of sense.
  • photonic69
    photonic69 Posts: 2,415
    So went down the road yesterday and popped into an Italian cafe I always pass by but never stop at though I keep meaning to. So had a very nice double espresso from the Proprietor. He uses Lavazza beans. Quite smooth. Went home and put some Lavazza Espresso ready ground into my stove top Moka pot. That too was very smooth but didn't have the depth and richness. Anyway, with so much coffee inside me I cooked lunch, changed the brake fluid on the car, did some gardening, mowed the lawn, put up a curtain pole and then prepped dinner. All in one afternoon. Fell asleep by 10pm mind.


    Sometimes. Maybe. Possibly.

  • I have one of these
    https://www.lapavoni.com/en/products/domestic-machines/professional-lusso
    with a bur grinder, makes good coffee once you learn how to do it, takes very little time, does not take up too much bench space